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#8653

That’s a bit harsh. I’m sure Daddy hired out the entire zoo for a birthday party or two when they were little.


#8654

Could someone explain to me why Trump didn’t just seek funding for his stupid wall before 2019 when Republicans had a majority in both houses?


#8655

Because Mexico was going to pay for it


#8656

Took him 2 years to work out that Mexico wasn’t going to pay for his wall? This guy is one helluva stable genius. Besides Trump has come out and explained he didn’t mean that Mexico was going to pay for the wall when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. It’s all just one big misunderstanding.


#8657

I was being a little bit sarcastic.

It’s a laughable situation they have there at the moment. He needs to be called out.


#8658

He’s playing a power game against the Democrats. If the Dems blink, he’ll be able to wield a lot more power in the second half of his presidency. If he blinks, the Dems know they have him cornered and won’t allow him to push his agenda.


#8659

Also, they need a 2/3 majority to pass the funding bill. The Dems blocked it last year on those grounds.


#8660

Because he wouldn’t have got it, and at that time there were adults to tell him so.

They didn’t even get all the Republican votes to get 50 before the new senate came/comes? in.


#8661

The GOP held 51 votes in the senate and required 60 to approve funding. Dems didn’t provide the extra 9.


#8662

Huh? Isn’t that only if Trump vetoes the funding bill?


#8663

They passe a bill, it just didn’t have wall funding. And they couldn’t even get all 51 Republicans to support that.


#8664

Take the funding from disaster relief? Puerto Rican’s gonna pybfor the wall?


#8665

Trump’s problem is that he has screwed everyone at the negotiating table multiple times (Republican and Democrats in Congress, VP Pence, and his own WH and cabinet advocates).

For one example:
Congressional Dems and Republicans had previously (~1 year ago) negotiated for a substantial border security package much bigger than the $5 billion we’re talking about now. The Democrats would get DACA in return. A reasonable compromise. This was all done with the President’s blessing and understanding that he’d sign the resulting deal. After all the work was done he reneged.

For a second:
Leading up to Christmas McConnell worked to pass a funding deal to see the government through to the end of Feb. Again with the understanding that Trump would sign it. But Ann Coulter got in his ear and he suddenly reneged on that commitment.

His advocates like VP Pence don’t have much negotiating muscle because experience has taught everyone that they can’t really speak for the President.

Also I don’t think either the Republicans or the Democrats really think building a campaign memory aid is a fitting response to a problem that now revolves around legal points of entry, due in large part to the work already done on the border since ~2006.

Really Trump has screwed himself into this position.


#8666

But, but I thought he was a master negotiator.


#8667

Well it a word that ends like negotiator, but starts with mast…

Not sure if this article has been posted previously as l mostly come into this thread for the ■■■■ and giggles, however the temperature on Frump keeps rising.


#8668

Tulsi Gabbard announcing she is running in 2020, pretty solid candidate IMO.


#8669

Had a quick look. Could very realistically get the nomination.


#8670

Could have a shot but I know that a few of the senior (re: establishment) Dems can’t stand her.


#8671

Tulsi Gabbard: a pro-Russian, pro bombings in Syria, very recently virulently anti-gay, fan of Egyptian dictator General Abdel Fattah el Sisi, one of 47 House Democrats who voted to stop refugees from Syria and Iraq from entering the US, endorsed/praised by David Duke, Richard Spencer and Steve Bannon when being considered by Trump for Sec of State.

A hard pass.

Next.


#8672

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration