Tis a pity that neither Napoleon or Hitler could do the job in Russia.
Russian Special Forces Patch
Russian Special Forces in Eastern Ukraine
According to Putin…
That’s Ukranians who have killed Russians and taken their clothes parading as Russians.
Edit: Russians should look more like Nikolai Volkoff not Obelisk.
Mods, I suggest that we either change the name of this thread or split it into two. One dealing with MH370 and the other dealing with MH17. With the horrendous loss of lives in both tragedies, I think they warrant their own threads.
Does anyone else think that it is a little bit twilight zone that the two biggest stories of the past 12 months ( missing flight 370 and the war between Russia and The Ukraine) could become entwined in such a bizarre tale.
Tis a pity that neither Napoleon or Hitler could do the job in Russia.
Utter rubbish.
Is it just me or have politicians here starting pronouncing Putin's name a "pewtin" as opposed to "pootin"?
Looks like Russian special forces also earn money on the side as Dwarves in The Hobbit movies.
Looks like Russian special forces also earn money on the side as Dwarves in The Hobbit movies.
A couple of stand ins for ZZ Top.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Sanctions will hurt but as you said Putin will ignore them.
The only way to stop the flow of weapons is militarily and no one is that stupid.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
Yeah but Putins friends will then lose money.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
80% of gas comes from Russia and Turkmenistan
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
80% of gas comes from Russia and Turkmenistan
So basically the best possible scenario is for the Ukrainians to allow the bodies of the victims to be returned home, nothing more to see here.
It's certainly going to be awkward at the G20 later this year.
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
80% of gas comes from Russia and Turkmenistan
So basically the best possible scenario is for the Ukrainians to allow the bodies of the victims to be returned home, nothing more to see here.
It's certainly going to be awkward at the G20 later this year.
You mean the pro-russian separatists, the one's that have looted the bodies, removed or destroyed evidence including the black boxes, shot at and impeded monitors and blew the plane out of the sky
Excuse my ignorance but even if it is proven that Russia indeed provided the missiles to the pro-russian Ukrainians, then what?
Absolutely nothing.
Sure some leaders will use firm language and threaten heavier sanctions. Ultimately though Russia is far to strong for any real damage. Plus if they go to hard on Putin he might just actually take over Ukraine
The sanctions will begin to hurt the Russian economy. The new sanctions are aimed at some of Russia's must powerful company's, including oil and gas producers and state-owned defense firms. This will put pressure on the leadership of Putin. But Putin has shown time and time again that he does not take these types of measures all that seriously.
The biggest issue is the flow of arms across the Russian border which has not stopped.
Doesn't most of the Ukraine's gas come from Russia? they can just turn off the taps if they are pushed.
80% of gas comes from Russia and Turkmenistan
So basically the best possible scenario is for the Ukrainians to allow the bodies of the victims to be returned home, nothing more to see here.
It's certainly going to be awkward at the G20 later this year.
You mean the pro-russian separatists, the one's that have looted the bodies, removed or destroyed evidence including the black boxes, shot at and impeded monitors and blew the plane out of the sky
Yeah they're the ones, doesn't look promising does it. Not much anyone can do about it though.