Marriage is totally Gay

[Jefferson]

This still applies in this thread

[mdso]

What the f are you serious?

[cul_de_sac]

I remember when my doctor told me I had to do the gender switch. All I wanted was my cough checked out

[SMJ]

I started this thread years ago. What the actual fark has happened

[SpicedRum]

Ha, I had a feeling that was you Azza my old mate.

Serious question, why do you think it is that you keep gravitating to this particular topic?

I really had no intention… i was waiting for last weeks team in an outs on the AFL page and here… … and it popped up at the top of the main page… so i had a browse and it just so happened that what was being discussed was not Gay marriage but gay conversion… and i didn’t think anyone seriously considered the implication of making such a thing illegal and that banning it is inconsistent with the same grounds LGBT is built upon… … be who you want to be or think you are, and not forced to be something you dont want to be etc… so i mentioned it…

I dont think i have even been in the thread since i signed back up… early last year…

[Reboot]

I started this thread years ago. What the actual fark has happened

Shut up and pass me a couple of bricks.

Amen.

[SpicedRum]

Two seperate topics.

Gay Conversion therapy is usually forced on an unwilling subject by others, mostly parents usually supported by a church or other nutjobs. It has been shown to be detrimental to the mental health of the subject.

“Usually” maybe…
but that’s not what is being discussed, I said from the get go, i do not support coercive or Forced Therapies… well at least for non-criminals. Because we (most of the population) do condone it in jails for sex offender rehabilitation.

But if a professional wanted to advertise such a thing that was not forced or coercive then i cant see why there is a problem with it given we tend to socially accept therapy to stop people who want to stop a behaviour they don’t want or like in themselves.

While i dont think it would be a popular service, i cant see anything actually wrong providing it if there a skilled therapist etc…
Id agree, that the name is a bit much… but if it were named:
“managing your sexual desire therapy”
i cant see how that would not be the same thing just by another name… and by banning the former you incidentally muddy the water of someone seeking the later especially for the therapist legally and what they can provide say and do.

Medical procedures to change gender are a long process of counselling, surgery and medications including hormone treatments, which at least in Australia are subject to structure and strict guidelines.

So why wouldn’t someone struggling with there homosexuality and wanting to become Hetrosexual be any diffrent? why shouldn’t they have a long process of counselling and medication to deal with there struggle to identify? and why not make it have strict guidelines much the same?

Your obsession with this topic makes me wonder if you are involved either as a subject or an instigator in forcing someone into gay conversion. Best you seek professional help.

Dont confuse me knowing the subject better than you as being someone who does gay conversion, as far as im concerned you are redneck for not being able to open your eyes to others sexual struggles you never considered, but in your dogma you instantly reject it. I pity you.

[bigallan]

It’s some time since it was a crime to commit homosexual acts and SSM has redressed inequalities in status, but there are still pockets of homophobia in society.

[JBOMBER]

It’s some time since it was a crime to commit homosexual acts and SSM has redressed inequalities in status, but there are still pockets of homophobia in society.

And the voting showed those pockets are also known as “Labor heartland”

[wimmera1]

It’s some time since it was a crime to commit homosexual acts and SSM has redressed inequalities in status, but there are still pockets of homophobia in society.

And the voting showed those pockets are also known as “Labor heartland”

Well, yes.
It clearly showed the worst parts are a couple of suburbs in western Sydney, and one side of the House of Parliament.

[Heffsgirl]

‘I still have flashbacks’: the ‘global epidemic’ of LGBT conversion therapy

[HirdMentality]

I think one of the key points as to the difference between gender transition and GCT is the outcome, transition in most cases helps reduce mental health issues in its patients. Whereas GCT usually has the opposite affect.

And also transitioning is managed by actual medical professionals.

[Saucy]

couple of suburbs in western Sydney

Must have been heavily populated Christian and Catholic areas.

[bigallan]

A gay person in a minority/ religion adhering community would be under enormous pressure to conform to heterosexual behaviour, at risk of being ostracised by the community. In such circumstances freedom of choice to engage in quackery conversion therapy would be highly circumscribed by community and family pressure.

[HirdMentality]

couple of suburbs in western Sydney

Must have been heavily populated Christian and Catholic areas.

Islamic, and Chinese communities moreso

[Alan_Noonan_10]

couple of suburbs in western Sydney

Must have been heavily populated Christian and Catholic areas.

Islamic, and Chinese communities moreso

They suggested that 75% of Catholcs voted Yes
And in Melbourne, strongly disagreed with Archbishop Hart’s stance on sacking gays from Catholic schools.

[HirdMentality]

Virtually all of the Catholics I know have openly gay family members and I’m unaware of any significant backlash directed toward them.

It’s a shame that many of the prominent catholics are so behind the times

[mdso]

Let’s get one thing straight (Ha, Ha) Electric Shock Treatment was used extensively when the belief was all paedophiles were also homosexual which was a totally false theory. When in actual fact, most sex offenders who are into underage children are usually men in heterosexual relationships. Men who are married and have children of their own or are living with a women and their partner has children.

Having worked with sex offenders there is no one size fits all in therapy and certainly I would say rehabilitation is all but useless because all the men I worked with were simply unable to see anything wrong with their behaviour. They had no remorse and the moment they were released they were right back where they began, outside schools and in places where there had access easy to both male and female children.

[Bacchusfox]

That is quite scary

[JBOMBER]

Let’s get one thing straight (Ha, Ha) Electric Shock Treatment was used extensively when the belief was all paedophiles were also homosexual which was a totally false theory. When in actual fact, most sex offenders who are into underage children are usually men in heterosexual relationships. Men who are married and have children of their own or are living with a women and their partner has children.

Having worked with sex offenders there is no one size fits all in therapy and certainly I would say rehabilitation is all but useless because all the men I worked with were simply unable to see anything wrong with their behaviour. They had no remorse and the moment they were released they were right back where they began, outside schools and in places where there had access easy to both male and female children.

So you support shock treatment just with a few hundred extra volts.