This is Tripper level trolling.
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Iâm seriously confused by language youâre using.
Again, Iâm not captain LGBT by any stretch, but you sound like youâre describing animals that youâve only seen in books.
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I used to teach Sexual Health Educaton or Health and Human Relations - whatever you want to call it - from Grade 5 to Year 12 as a Secondary School Nurse, teachers usually didnât want to teach it.
I asked my brother who came out as gay in his 30âs what he wished he was taught when he was at school and his answer was -âjust that gay people existedâ. He took a long time to come to terms with it because the total expectation of society in the mainstream (and certainly in education) that heterosexuality was the only sexuality that was to be acknowledged, at least in the 60âs and 70âs when he was at school and homosexuality was still a crime. The Hamer Government repealed the sodomy laws in 1980, the death penalty could be applied for the act sodomy until 1949.
As a parent I am rapt that my children grew up with friends whose mothers are a lesbian couple and fathers who are a gay couple. The kids were great kids (nearly grown up now) and the parents are great people who we socialise with and help each other out as parents and had our kids stay over and pick each other up and take home etc.
That was the best education ever, I know my kids have great role models if they decided they were gay or lesbian.
In the class room I liked the exercise of getting kids to get up an go to one end of the room if they would stand by their best friend if they came out as gay or lesbian or the other if they wouldnât.
95% of kids would (this was an outside of metro area low socioeconomic school, where homophobia lead to violence), and one or two kids who made the most noise would be up the other end, and they would be the ones whose opinion was always heard.
When the class could see the majority didnât stand with the noisy few, they were able to articulate an opposing point of view a lot more readily which was a lot more supportive to kids who otherwise felt marginalised (even if they didnât openly identify at this point).
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Champagne comedy right here, folks.
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Excuse me sir, Iâm here to inquire about this lovely conversion therapy I see that you are qualified and certified to undertake as is my wantâŚ?
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Can you convert me into a Multi Billionaire pls, ??
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If you have a spare $62,000 AUD I will be happy to convert you to a Rial Multi-Billionaire.
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You are so out of touch with reality on this whole thing thatâs itâs basically impossible to argue the issue. Everything youâre talking about is pure fantasy, and in response to absolutely nothing.
I know plenty and Iâm much younger than you, but I doubt any of them would want to hang around with you.
Iâve just been informed that two people I thought was one person are in fact not.
And furthermore one is trans and one is gender fluid.
And I donât understand any of this, but, againâŚI donât really need to to be nice and treat people like people.
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Iâm sure Iâll get over it.
How about providing a counter argument instead of just telling me i live in a fantasy.
like: âhey rummy⌠Homosexuals are born that way, they can not change to something they are not⌠thats why Gay conversion therapy is whack braâ
It would be inconsistent with the idea that transexuality is a real thing⌠(that nature over nurture or Essence over experience alâa Satre)⌠umm if i can be a woman, then a homosexual man can be a straight man, and too tell someone they can not convert a homosexual if they choose to do such a therapy into a hetrosexual Asexual, bi sexual or what ever⌠is to deny sexual and gender fluidity and there for be homophobic.
But at least it would be an argument i could deal with , so it would be alot more substantive than the drivel you spouted out telling me i live in a fantasy.
To be honest i just had a look in here while waiting for the team, and it appears im the only one truly interested or cares for true sexual and gender fluidity⌠despite all the celebration for the rights of LGBTIQA⌠anything goes⌠but cant have homosexuals become something else⌠bizarre.
and I thought the Daniher thread was stupidâŚ
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You simply have a wrong idea, a false equivalency, in your head that you refuse to let go of.
It makes discussion, or any sort of fact, or point, or evidence, or anecdote, or real life experience worthless.
Just a little insight would alert you to the idea that something is amiss when you say âIâm the only one here who cares about LGBT rights.â
But you donât have that or you wouldnât say it.
Edit: Or to put it another way, removing actualâŚpeople and feelings and real lives from the issue as youâre doing⌠your argument is:
This = That therefore This Other Thing.
Which is a fine logical formula.
But you havenât remotely established that This = That first.
And you canât and wonât because it doesnât.
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What he said.
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Hang in a second⌠you think being transgender is a choice???
Heâs a troll.
Jordan Peterson is privately seething at this.
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Demonstrate that fallacy and i ill let go of the argument, but i just donât see how i it is false equivalency⌠its the opposite, im applying the same principles and standards for all positions of gender & sexuality fluidity.
its part hyperbole⌠i thought that was obvious⌠the point is people think supporting LGBTIQA rights stops at Gay marriage and stopping homophobia, but the fact is people are in all forms of gender and sexual flux, even areas they dont want to think about, like the idea a Gay man might not think he is gay.
So to deny a form of it is to deny the principles that LGBTIQA is built around. People want to pick and choose even if it makes them a hypocrite, unfortunately to say someone doesnât think they are gay is un-popular and dosnt fit in to the some peoples agenda.
But if young man comes along and states he dosnt think he is hetrosexual its the opposite, if i was arguing that you would all get around me im sure of it. thats the bizarre part.
I dont understand your attempt at formal logic⌠if P then Q. And so far i have done that. P = Hetrosexual to Homosexual, then Q = Homosexual to Hetrosexual
So far i have obeyed the laws of logic and my argument is sound as it gets. So far i have not seen any error.
Thread is not improving with time.
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