That’s not the issue Nino. Saying x players were turned over sounds like a lot. But only when you compare it to other teams do you realise whether you have indeed moved over a lot of players.
Since 2022, Pies have turned over 31 players, same as Geelong. Sydney have turned over 33 players. Even good teams turn over players.
Over the last 4 years, teams have moved on 7.5 players a year on average. We have turned over 8.8 on average
The probably have a larger turnover because the players they draft aren’t first rounders and a less likely to make it.
So we went above the average.
Yep
Like who apart from the obvious?
Rubbish
Tippa
Hurley
Heppell (heart and soul captain)
Draper (we offered him a 4 year deal !!!
Stringer (premiership player)
Kelly (premiership player)
Shiel (AA)
Smith (b&f)
Laverde
All very good senior players
Most new coaches make substantial moves when in the 2-3 years following their takeover of a club. That can be to change culture, to shift the player mix to suit a gameplan, or to weed out players who the coach doesn’t believe will cut it. You also have a club that has embraced the rebuild and has dropped depth senior players in order to flick through more late pick kids.
Supporters over play the importance of the senior coach.
The biggest impact in a club’s performance is the quality of the list.
Unless you’ve got one of the great all time coaches, who can turn a list of bog average plodders into well oiled machine which performs in finals…… then yiu just have to keep turning your list over until you have an elite group.
Which is what the club has been doing the last 3 years. imo Brad should be given that chance to coach a side that’s completely different to the one when he first started.
Continuing on, I think supporters under estimate the importance of the S&C/medical team.
I think injuries have a far bigger impact than is immediately obvious.
List sizes are fixed at 44 right? So delisting 7 more than the average is actually quite substantial as a percentage of your total list allowances. There are plenty more who need to go but we are not slackers on this space.
Since 2022 Geelong have moved on more players who didn’t play a game for them than any other club. Makes sense since their team is stacked with quality and experience, so it’s hard to break in to, but total player turnover isn’t an equal comparison in isolation.
Looking at delistings in isolation isn’t the only measure to be applied.
A bit more of a deep dive is needed.
Most teams would be delisting a high number because they have a ‘free swing’ at players during the mid-season draft. Category B rookies are also a free swing that some teams don’t even bother with. Then there’s delistings to pick them up as rookies that just muddies the measure again.
It would be better off to go through the players that are delisted and see how long they were on the list and how many games they got (VFL or AFL).
That’ll better identify who is aggressively making tougher calls on players vs the easy ones like delisting late draft picks and mid-season picks.
Unfortunately for us, our drafting has been very poor the last five years. So we’ve had to cut a high amount of failed draft picks along the way. And we’ve still got some more to cut. It wasn’t until the end of last year and this year that we’ve begun to let some experience go.
Done a fantastic job so far given the rubbish hand he was dealt with last year really delivered this draft….
Look forward to next year’s draft hand now what he can conjure
Seems like a smart operator too.
That’s my entire point. Teams turn over heaps of players every year.
Opposition fans don’t pay attention to the rookies or bust pick 60s that get delisted after 2 years
Have we sacked the entire team in one go yet
Can we ban him again yet?
You know I’m joking right
No, you’re complaining about people’s opinions. Which is a constant theme of your posts, and why you got banned in the first place.