Midfield Trade Targets

[ivan]

Callum is an Essendon supporter who occassionally overcomes his love of the club to report other things.

Awesome dude.

Hope that helps.

And long time blitzer too.

Oh go on, out him @fogdog

[werewolf]

If we could offload Howlett for a pick in the 100s id jump at it. Myers would be 3rd round. Pick 30 for both is fantasy.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Do you understand the phrase “as much as they should have”?

Without having any stats, J watson seemed to be our first picked onballer all year. And he was not giving us much, obvious from the first game of the year. Heppell and Zerrett after that, then the (very impressive) Zaharakis, then the almost-as-cooked Myers. Goddard got time in there, and only after all of that list did Parish get time on ball. Langford got 3? games as a mid, luckily he got a reasonable amount of time when he was picked, but it wasn’t often enough by a long shot.

Watson and Myers really threw out our selections this year IMO. Not only because their lack of pace and agility exposed us when the ball got free of the centre swuare, but their lack of flexibility made it very hard for a number of younger players.

[bloodychoir]

Yeah, a disproportionate number of Tassie footballers are from up there. Laycock was too from memory. Must be all the bracing sea air and inbreeding.

There’s Tassie’s team name, “The Bracing Seamen”

[Deckham]

Yeah, a disproportionate number of Tassie footballers are from up there. Laycock was too from memory. Must be all the bracing sea air and inbreeding.

There’s Tassie’s team name, “The Bracing Seamen”

I said, 'IRONBORN"!!!

[SplitRound]

Bad news @Ants, looks like Balic’s going to the demons.

[bloodychoir]

Yeah sure, as long as there’s inbreeding whatevs.

[bloodychoir]

Still, think of the marketing slogans, Farkarlton had “They know were coming!”,
Tassie could have “Brace yourself for a Spray from the Seamen!”

Ban me

[Laverde2Langford]

Still, think of the marketing slogans, Farkarlton had “They know were cumm ing!”,

Tassie could have “Brace yourself for a Spray from the Seamen!”

Ban me

Fixed

[Ants]

Not really as much as they should have, IMO

Parish mostly doodled about half forward
Heppell mostly doodled about on the wing/half back
Lang mostly doodled about VFL, after an early stint as the third forward.

I think trying to get Watson and Myers back up the hill forced the club’s hand with some other selection decisions.

You know, I’ve seen many many people say these things. Both I think are mostly incorrect. Either that, or Parish is the worst half-forward ever (look at his goals/goal assists) and Heppell got more clearances/contested ball than any half-back ever.

I do agree that they both spent more time on the wing than automatically inside, but I believe both played almost exclusively midfield.

Do you understand the phrase “as much as they should have”?

Without having any stats, J watson seemed to be our first picked onballer all year. And he was not giving us much, obvious from the first game of the year. Heppell and Zerrett after that, then the (very impressive) Zaharakis, then the almost-as-cooked Myers. Goddard got time in there, and only after all of that list did Parish get time on ball. Langford got 3? games as a mid, luckily he got a reasonable amount of time when he was picked, but it wasn’t often enough by a long shot.

Watson and Myers really threw out our selections this year IMO. Not only because their lack of pace and agility exposed us when the ball got free of the centre swuare, but their lack of flexibility made it very hard for a number of younger players.

Yes I understand “as much as they should have”. Its a nothing phrase as someone could be getting 5% or 95% time but an individual might think they should have had more.

Do you understand the word “mostly”? As in, Parish mostly doodled about half-forward. That implies he and Heppell were spending more time in other areas.

There are 7-9 midfielders in every game rotating, and they were both standard amongst that group. They didn’t particularly rest forward or back. They were midfielders.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

You can, and no doubt will, argue the semantics any way you like. Parish certainly spent more time outside of the 4 starting in the centre square, than within.
Heppell spent plenty of time there, but it still should have been more.
Mostly to allow Watson and Myers an attempt at re kindling their faltering careers.
I’m surprised anyone was ok with that at the time.
I’m flabbergasted anyone is defending it now. It was a short sighted move, at best.

[aboods]

You can, and no doubt will, argue the semantics any way you like. Parish certainly spent more time outside of the 4 starting in the centre square, than within.
Heppell spent plenty of time there, but it still should have been more.
Mostly to allow Watson and Myers an attempt at re kindling their faltering careers.
I’m surprised anyone was ok with that at the time.
I’m flabbergasted anyone is defending it now. It was a short sighted move, at best.

This sort of thing is exactly the reason why I’m convinced we’ll be better next year even if there is little movement in our midfield stocks over the offseason. If our starting midfield becomes Zerrett, Hepp and Parish it’s immediately better than anything we produced this year…especially if you factor in some natural improvement for Parish and you subscribe to the theory that Hepp will be better after another pre-season.

Throw in support from Zaharakis, McGrath, hopefully Langford, hopefully Smith, then cameos from Fanta, Walla and hopefully Stringer and it’s a pretty exciting midfield group all of a sudden

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

If our starting midfield becomes Zerrett, Hepp and Parish it’s immediately better than anything we produced this year

I agree.
Much more even defensively, and much better on the spread - which were our two real problems this year. Turn it over too often and a few wouldn’t or couldn’t track the ball back with enough intensity.

Hope we see McGrath in there too, sooner rather than later.

[Ants]

You can, and no doubt will, argue the semantics any way you like. Parish certainly spent more time outside of the 4 starting in the centre square, than within.
Heppell spent plenty of time there, but it still should have been more.
Mostly to allow Watson and Myers an attempt at re kindling their faltering careers.
I’m surprised anyone was ok with that at the time.
I’m flabbergasted anyone is defending it now. It was a short sighted move, at best.

I’m not defending playing Watson and Myers. I’m pointing out that the frequent meme going around Blitz that Parish spent material parts of the year as a HFF or Heppell as a back are patently false.

[SplitRound]

If anyone has an AFL Live Premium subscription (I don’t), they have somewhere in there heatmaps for every player of where they got all their possessions. That would provide fairly concrete information.

[Fella]

[Laverde2Langford]

Wholly balls. Guy gets it everywhere!

[aboods]

any chance of seeing that for Heppell?

and um…everyone else on the list

[Fella]

Heat map thread coming up

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

It seems weird that there are completely red bits where there’s no possessions marked, and deep green where there are plenty of possessions marked
But I will take that as some form of averaging and consider myself pwned.

To the naked eye, and the tv eye, he seemed to be the half forward drifting into the square far more often than that shows. (Or, he was doing that, just actually good at it…)

I will still be far happier with a more dynamic midfield setup in 2018.