Agreed but just for the record:
We did not “lose” them.
They were effectively stolen from us by the AFL/Vlad/Gill in their desperation to have a scapegoat that ended up in the Sorry Saga.
That the Saga caused them to leave was one thing. That the AFL hierarchy did nothing to see that we got anywhere even remotely near equitable terms for a player like Ryder just makes things even worse and makes those ( contemptible arseholes ) even worse in my eyes.
OH NOES WILL!!!
GWS are giving Harry Perryman a go in front of you… can you believe it.
Mate, seriously, the Essendon Football Club is where you are meant to be. Just lock it in.
What about Rocky? At his best he is an absolute gun. Would really compliment our midfield and a good age for our list profile.
Setterfield is still out injured for another 5-7wks IIRC after serious ankle injury
Good for us if he isn’t playing however
He’d be perfect
Whoa Whoa Whoa Speedy… whose side are you on mate.
Brisbane midfielder Tom Rockliff will decide his future in the back half of the season JAY CLARK, Herald Sun May 17, 2017 7:00pm Subscriber only BRISBANE Lions vice-captain Tom Rockliff will decide his future in the back half of the season after bouncing back from the most challenging year of his career.The reinvigorated ball winner is one of this year’s most intriguing free-agency prospects, and neither Brisbane nor Rockliff is in a rush to finalise a new deal.
The out-of-contract tough nut was at the crossroads last season amid a fallout with then coach Justin Leppitsch but has rediscovered his All-Australian form under new coach Chris Fagan.
Rockliff, 27, is the AFL’s top clearance winner this year, averaging 10 a game, and is rated elite for disposals (average 30), tackles (eight), contested possessions (15) andd SuperCoach points (123).
His sharply improved form is the second biggest spike recorded by Champion Data this season, behind only Gary Ablett.
Fagan has lauded Rockliff’s attitude and leadership after some “uncomfortable conversations” late last year, when the new coach told Rockliff “all of the things I’d heard about him”.
Rockliff subsequently lost the captaincy to Dayne Beams but has shown total commitment to the Lions’ cause so far this season and is one of the frontrunners for the best-and-fairest award.
Fagan is one of the keys to helping keep Rockliff at the club, but the Lions could be rewarded with a first or second-round compensation pick if the Victorian leaves as a free agent.
Brisbane is bottom of the ladder, meaning first-round compensation could net it pick No. 2, but only if Rockliff is paid more than about $700,000 at a new club.
A lesser salary would trigger a second-round compensation pick — No. 19 on current standings.
However, the Lions may be reluctant to lose another top-end talent after a string of departures in recent years, including Pearce Hanley (Gold Coast), Elliot Yeo and Jack Redden (West Coast), Sam Docherty (Carlton), Jared Polec (Port Adelaide) and Billy Longer (StKilda)
The Lions’ 2015 No. 2 draft pick Josh Schache, 19, is also considering a move back home to Victoria (he hails from Benalla).
Collingwood showed interest in Rockliff last season but instead opted for Fremantle utility Chris Mayne, who is languishing in its VFL team.
Rockliff dislocated his left shoulder in the loss to Hawthorn on Saturday. He could return for Sunday week’s match against Collingwood at the MCG, or the Round 12 match against Fremantle at the Gabba after the Lions’ bye.
You’d have to think Lions would want him to go.
Pick 1&2, plus wanting 2 first rounders for Schache would give them scope to address quite a few things. They will not be near finals for next 3-4yrs.
This years draft is meant to have strong kpp so they can replace Schache (albeit lose 2yrs of development) and also have strong hand for trades.
Rockliff could directly replace Watson. However could someone who we already have Craig Bird offer performance wise a slightly lesser version of Rockliff? And we can spend the cash elsewhere.
I would not know Chris Fagan if I picked him outta my nose.
Here you go:
You are of course correct though Speedy. For peoples information on the EFC’s Will Setterfield who we have seconded to GWS for a couple of years.
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2 NEAFL Best afield with 33 possessions and three goals in hard-fought win over Gold Coast. Debut looming. -
3 NEAFL Started okay, but then injured ankle and is set for an extended stint on the sidelines. -
4 Ankle.
5 Ankle.
6 Ankle.
7 Ankle.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/124024/Will-SETTERFIELD
He looks like he’s pondering projected 2017-18 outgoings for the north western district budget.
Looks a little more like Don Pyke to me.
But I assume that’s the joke!
2 first rounders for a kid who has done nothing yet wtf???
Was pick2 gun kpf. Unbelievably accurate set shot. Has shown promise. Talls take until mid 20’s to hit their peak. He plays in a rubbish team.
Tom Boyd who’d also done nothing & this was in a strong side, went to Dogs for pick 6 & Griffen (Dogs captain).
Treloar went for two first rounders (with some exchange of later picks) also and kpf’s harder to get than mids.
A team who are not going to see a top 3 pick (best kpf’s usually there) for a while will give up their first rounder and future first rounder to get him. Especially say Richmond who are desperate for support for JR whilst they think they in the mix, and for future planning.
Richmond would also bank on their future first rounder being low if they thought pressing for top4.
E.g. 2017 & 2018 first rounder for Schache & Lions 2017 second rounder.
Tigers may potentially be able to then use those now two 2017 second rounders they have (Bris and their own) to get back into 2017 first round with clubs who need academy points.
Schache’s been quite disappointing. Pretty sure a high/mid first round pick would get it done. Certainly not two first rounders.
For midfield depth Harley Balic is looking to come home. Was looking like an early second round pick in his draft but slid to 38. Has had some injury problems but looks good to go now. He’d a be a bargain get (late round 3 or 4 would get it done) and add good midfiled depth. Still young and worth a look I reckon.
Rockliff would be the guy, … if he was 24.
I guess it depends when our ‘window’ is. He’s just turned 27 so he’s got a good 4 years. If you think we might be a contender in the next 2 to 4 I think he’d be perfect. We’re bottom 2 for clearences and low on the table of centre clearences and contested possessions - Rockcliff’s one of the the best in the comp in all those
With Watson, Hocking and Howlett all struggling I think he’d make us a much much better team (double much).
He wouldn’t cost a draft pick so we can continue to hit the draft. As long as it didn’t affect list management ($) I think he’s perfect - perfect would be a 23 year old, but that’d cost us our first pick and maybe more.
Balic would have been great if we took him at that draft when we had the chance. I was very disappointed we didn’t.
He’d be a great addition to our midfield and would take Zaka’s spot in the team if he doesn’t perform?
But other clubs have been onto him for a year now, so if we haven’t gotten involved up until now, we’re unlikely to get him.
An early third round pick or a late second round pick would be enough to get him.
Wow, … well in that case …
I hear you,… and like you say,… if we are in the window, . he’s a definite maybe.
He was a late 2nd and has hardly played. He’s probably worth more, but whoever gets him will get a bargain. Freo will get a third at best.
I too was hoping we’d pick him up in his draft year.
The way it goes these days he’s probably already chosen his club. I bet he ends up at the Saints. He’s from that way and they seem a few steps ahead when it comes to trading. As much as we joke about Bains he’s been excellent at the Saints