Missing/crashed planes, and other aviation mis/adventures

Goodness me. I said Trump needs to stop blaming and so do the Dems. How hard is that for you to understand? Of course it has nothing to do with DEI, just has it has nothing to do with Trump wanting people to be sacked.

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I’d be almost certain ATC error played a big part in it. Their system is a mess and has been for years. It’s the old Swiss cheese effect

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ATC has been a chronic issue in the USA for years.
It’s so badly understaffed it’s only good luck that has prevented a crash until now.
Of course ATC will be only one component of the problem this time.
Swiss cheese holes lining up.

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I understand that. I also understand that you said the Dems need to stop blaming Trump. I was suggesting this wasn’t a 50-50 argument, and that it was possible that Trumps actions could have affected the situation.(And that’s not a Dem vs Republican discussion, it’s a trying to understand what may or may not have been affecting those involved in the situation). So you can choose to see it as a Dem vs Rep argument and choose to believe that Trump’s words don’t affect people, but in trying to get to the bottom of an accident you can be sure that the culture of ATC will be looked at. And if even one ATC staff member was feeling super stressed by the political environment and how it was affecting their potential future employment, that could contribute.

But sure. Just assume whatever Trump says exists in a vacuum only for media consumption and tik tok clicks

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White House statements are demonstrated as lies or misrepresentations by the MSM.
However, many Trump followers don’t read or watch the MSM. Their selective social media feeds build on the lies and misrepresentation, more falsehoods.

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Yep, staff levels at least 30% under requirements and has been that way since the early 80’s when a large cohort were sacked.
The US also has procedures that are not seen elsewhere but because they’ve gotten away with it for so long, they’ve come to be seen as safe, when they’re the exact opposite.
This has been coming for a long time sadly

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Reportedly Serco provides air traffic controllers to around 60 US airports. Have there been any reports of private contractors at DC airports?

They don’t provide them to any DC airports or any in the region. Serco only look after airports in about a dozen states and I think they are still all in the West

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There has been a Serco connected pay dispute with air traffic controllers, including at San Carlos airport in California. San Carlos airport is currently operating without air traffic control.

What could go wrong?

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Didn’t think that was kicking in until Saturday.
ATC are finishing up Friday midnight and still a chance of a resolution before then

Thanks for posting that. The Cold Water Fatality Myths was worth reading. Myth #4 also applies to any hypothermic patients found in the snow/cold areas and I know of one instance where first aiders have very nearly and inadvertently caused this to happen and not many people (including trained first aiders seem to know about it).

MYTH #4: After a fall into cold water, if you survive hypothermia you’re going to live.
Fact: Unfortunately, there is a fourth stage of cold-water immersion called post-immersion collapse that can still kill you. To those of us not trained in treating these medical emergencies, it’s somewhat surprising that this can happen after someone has been rescued. The fact is these people are in great danger of experiencing collapsed arterial blood pressure during this stage, which can lead to cardiac arrest. Also, inhaling water can damage your lungs and cause heart problems to develop as cold blood from your arms and legs is released into the core of your body.

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No probs. As a kayaker the effects of water immersion are an area of interest!
The temperature at which cold shock can occur is also a lot higher than most people think (25*C; this is the highest temperature Port Phillip reaches during the year).

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Looks like the Blackhawk was above the 200’ allowed altitude for the route.
Perhaps 350’ and rising which put them in conflict with the CRJ at 400’

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Another plane crash in the US. Philli this time.

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Sounds like a light plane crashed into a residential area with both onboard perishing

Medical transport apparently. 6 people died. 2 crew, 2 medical, the patient and a family member.

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Watch at your own risk. I’ve seen these, and they are… confronting.

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Can’t imagine too many (if any) surviving that initial collision.

Also interesting that at 5:50(ish) it suggests the readings from the 2 aircraft showed they were 150ft (45m) apart at the time of the crash.