It is just the obvious conclusion. The simplest answer is usually right.
Plane U Turns for no reason.
Fly's erratically for 12 minutes then Disappears.
Witnesses in the area say they saw something explode.
Nothing found.
But the lead we are following is that it flew on for 7 hours by itself undetected by anyone.
It makes sense, If it is a cover-up, there is no way anyone would trust tone so they tell him the plane went down near his most isolated coastline and he has to start looking for it or he can't play with them anymore, so, being the good little muppet he is, he's happily using peoples pension money to sift away through garbage on the WA coastline.
Perhaps Tone isn't in on it. The confusion in the 1st week was madness.
He got all excited when he was told it off our coastline. He was busting to tell everyone.
Perhaps in the same meeting they said "you need to buy 12 billion worth of fighter jets of your own."
Anything is possible. We all bought the fact they shot Bin Laden and quickly dumped his body out to sea.
It makes sense, If it is a cover-up, there is no way anyone would trust tone so they tell him the plane went down near his most isolated coastline and he has to start looking for it or he can't play with them anymore, so, being the good little muppet he is, he's happily using peoples pension money to sift away through garbage on the WA coastline.
Apparently our Navy don't even know where Indonesia is. How the f*** are we gonna find a little orange box?
It makes sense, If it is a cover-up, there is no way anyone would trust tone so they tell him the plane went down near his most isolated coastline and he has to start looking for it or he can't play with them anymore, so, being the good little muppet he is, he's happily using peoples pension money to sift away through garbage on the WA coastline.
Apparently our Navy don't even know where Indonesia is. How the f*** are we gonna find a little orange box?
tone said he found it but I think he was confused with that pig Mal Brough's fundraising menu
IMO more likely the pilot (or copilot) did a murder/suicide.
He's flown it in an opposite direction in an area he felt it would never be tracked or found. His only mistake is not knowing that the ACARS satellite transmitter was still working even though the system was turned off. Otherwise they would be still searching the Gulf of Thailand or Straits of Malacca.
He would have been hoping that the plane would never be found. Insurance payout for the family?
It is just the obvious conclusion. The simplest answer is usually right.
Plane U Turns for no reason.
Fly's erratically for 12 minutes then Disappears.
Witnesses in the area say they saw something explode.
Nothing found.
But the lead we are following is that it flew on for 7 hours by itself undetected by anyone.
hahahahahahah ^^
Ant, I think that conspiracy would involve too many people to keep it secret.
It is just the obvious conclusion. The simplest answer is usually right.
Plane U Turns for no reason.
Fly's erratically for 12 minutes then Disappears.
Witnesses in the area say they saw something explode.
Nothing found.
But the lead we are following is that it flew on for 7 hours by itself undetected by anyone.
There were also witnesses in the Maldives who thought they saw it.........
I think the biggest flaw in this theory (i'm not opposed to the idea that it was shot down per se) is that it ignores the engine data transmissions that get sent to Boeing in auto-managed increments. There's also the small matter that if you shot down a passenger jet with air-to-air missiles in one of the busier shipping lanes in the world (straights of malacca) there's probably going to be a shitload of debris scattered over a large area and someone would have found it.
I doubt too that it could have been chinese jets. the nearest chinese airforce base would be close to 2000km from the straights. even at mach 2, that's an hours flight.
Its a interesting theory.
I wouldn't imagine Abbott staking his 30 odd year politcal career to basically cover up a murder though.
Yeah its nice to be in their good books to get a slightly better trade deal than you might otherwise get, but youre not going to say "yeah sure thing, we'll stake our government and political careers to cover up something that will probably get found out anyway".
MH370 hits unbelievable snag
May 15, 2014 4:10PM<div>
THE so far fruitless search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has suffered another setback after finding out the search equipment is faulty.
The Joint Agency Coordination Centre say they have discovered a defect in the transponder mounted on Australian vessel Ocean Shield and that a defect may also exist in the transponder mounted on the US Navy Bluefin-21 submersible.
JACC has not revealed how long the transponder mounted on the Ocean Shield, which last month detected signals consistent with aircraft black boxes, has been faulty.
Air Chief Marshal Houston said at the time that the signal detection had been a significant development.
“This is the most promising lead, probably in the search so far, it‘s probably the best information we‘ve hadâ€,†he told reporters on April 7.
Ocean Shield, carrying the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle, arrived back in the southern Indian Ocean search zone on Tuesday following a port visit to Perth after the air and sea hunt was scaled back.
Faulty part … technicians tie down the Bluefin-21 autonomous underwater vehicle. Picture: Paul Kane Source: Getty Images
The plan was for it to resume scouring the seabed where transmissions believed to have come from the plane‘s black box flight recorders were heard last month.
As reported yesterday the Bluefin-21 was recovered about two hours into its first mission since returning to the search area so a communications problem could be investigated.
During the recovery, Bluefin-21 was damaged but was able to be repaired expeditiously with spare parts on board the ADV Ocean Shield, JACC said in a statement today.
“Examination of the communications problem has established that a hardware defect exists in the transponder mounted on the Ocean Shield and that a defect may also exist in the transponder mounted on the Bluefin-21,†the statement said.
This inhibits the ability of the two devices to communicate with each other.â€
News Corp has sought clarification from JACC about how long the transponders may have been faulty but is yet to receive a response.
Spare parts for both defects will be dispatched from the United Kingdom. The parts are expected to arrive in Western Australia on Sunday.
“Ocean Shield is currently en route to Dampier, Western Australia, to receive the transponder parts. The journey is anticipated to take a number of days,†JACC said.
“At this stage, Ocean Shield is expected go alongside so engineers can make a full assessment of the transponder repairs.â€
Still searching … the ADV Ocean Shield on the ocean, ready to scour for MH370. Picture: Paul Kane Source: Getty Images
The Boeing 777 vanished on March 8 with 239 people on board after mysteriously diverting from its Kuala Lumpur-Beijing route. It is believed to have crashed far off Australia‘s west coast.
Air and sea searches over vast stretches of the Indian Ocean have failed to find any sign of MH370.
Australia, which is leading the hunt, has stressed that it believes it is looking in the right area based on satellite communications from the plane.
Officials have said an intensified undersea mission will begin once new and more sophisticated equipment to complement Bluefin-21 can be obtained to search at depths of more than 4500 metres.
The ocean bed in the prospective search zone is not just deep but largely unmapped, meaning specialist sonar equipment and other autonomous vehicles are needed.
JACC said it had now established a Military Coordination and Sub-Surface Planning Cell, led by a Royal Australian Navy hydrographer and US Navy Sea Systems Command representative.
“Preparations to conduct the bathymetric survey are continuing,†it said, referring to a study of the ocean floor terrain.
“A Chinese survey ship is now in the search area and will assist in preparations for future operations.â€
Meanwhile, international experts continue to re-examine satellite imagery and all the data collated so far to try to pinpoint a more precise location for the search.
JACC said vessels from Australia, Malaysia and China and an Australian aircraft remain on standby should any surface debris need investigation.
http://news.optuszoo.com.au/2014/05/15/mh370-hits-unbelievable-snag/
So does that mean they have to start again?
They probably hadn't switched it on...how convenient
And what about that company that claimed to have found "an aircraft" in the Bay of Bengal?
First book on MH370 mystery blames US war games
Date
May 18, 2014
Tim Barlass
EXCLUSIVE
One theory: Flight MH370 posits that there was a cover-up.
Seventy-one days after Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared, the first book about the disaster will go on sale on Monday with a theory about what might have happened.
And as the international search continues for the aircraft Irene Burrows, the Queensland mother who lost her son and daughter-in-law on the flight, said it was too soon for a book.
Flight MH370 The Mystery, which is made available by NewSouth Books in Sydney, doesn't claim to have any answers but to some extent supports the theory that the aircraft may have been accidentally shot down during a joint Thai-US military exercise in the South China Sea. Searchers were then possibly led in the wrong direction to cover up the mistake, it suggests.
''In an age where a stolen smart phone can be pinpointed to any location on earth, the vanishing of this aircraft and 227 passengers is the greatest mystery since the Mary Celeste,'' the publicity for the book reads.
The Sun-Herald is the first media outlet in Australia to see the work, written by author and journalist Nigel Cawthorne. It records the events, emotions and theories unfolding on a backdrop of fruitless searches.
Cawthorne says in the introduction that ''almost certainly'' relatives will never be sure what happened to their loved ones.
''Did they die painlessly, unaware of their fate? Or did they die in terror in a flaming wreck, crashing from the sky in the hands of a madman?''
He says this raises the significance that around the time the plane's transponder went off at 01.21, New Zealander Mike McKay, working on an oil rig in the Gulf of Thailand, saw a burning plane. He links that to the joint Thai-US military exercise going on in the South China Sea with personnel from China, Japan, Indonesia and other countries.
''The drill was to involve mock warfare on land, in water and in the air, and would include live-fire exercises,'' he writes.
''Say a participant accidentally shot down Flight MH370. Such things do happen. No one wants another Lockerbie [Pan Am flight 103 by terrorists in 1988 allegedly in retaliation for a US Navy strike on an Iranian commercial jet six months earlier], so those involved would have every reason to keep quiet about it.''
He suggests through anonymous and contradictory sources, they might release misinformation, leading people to search in the wrong place in an environment so hostile that it would be unlikely anything would ever be found.
''After all, no wreckage has been found in the south Indian Ocean, which in itself is suspicious,'' Cawthorne writes.
''Now I'm not saying that's what happened but if a black box is found, who is to say that it is from Flight MH370? Another black box could have been dropped in the sea 1000 miles from Perth while the search was going on in the South China Sea. In these circumstances, with the amount of disinformation abroad, it is best to be sceptical.''
Ms Burrows, the mother of Brisbane man Rod Burrows who was travelling with his wife, Mary, said on Friday the book was premature.
''Nobody knows what happened so why would anyone want to put out a book at this stage?'' she said.
''There's absolutely no answers. It's devastating for the families. It's 10 weeks tomorrow and there's nothing,'' she said.
''There are so many theories that I only want to believe one, that they were all unconscious and didn't know what was going on.
''That's my only theory. That keeps me sane. All I want is for somebody to find a bit of plane. My husband wants a black box and I want a bit of plane to let me know just where they are.''
Penguin will soon release a book on the mystery to be written by aviation author Christine Negroni. She wrote Deadly Departure on TWA Flight 800, about a plane that crashed in the Atlantic near New York in 1996, killing 230.
Writing on her blog she says she has discussed the flight with French air accident investigator Olivier Ferrante.
He told her: ''So far it is a crash with no airplane, no bodies, no crash site, no physical evidence. It is a virtual crash until a piece of wreckage is found.''
And what about that company that claimed to have found "an aircraft" in the Bay of Bengal?
I found the article you're talking about, it can't be true though, tone abet said he had found the black box didn't he? and tone doesn't lie.
An Australian company that specializes in geophysical surveys said Tuesday that it has located the wreckage of a commercial airliner in the Bay of Bengal about 100 miles south of Bangladesh – and several thousand miles away from where search teams have been looking for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 aircraft.
While GeoResonance, whose technology was originally created to find nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry in underwater and underground bunkers, stopped short of calling the discovery an unequivocal lead in the search for Flight 370, the company said they think it‘s worth exploring.
"[We‘re] not declaring this is MH370, however it should be investigated," GeoResonance said in a written statement.
Today, GeoResonance lends its technology to clients looking to locate specific metals or minerals for mining. It has also participated in hunts for old warships or planes on the ocean floor, according to CBS News.
But researchers from GeoResonance are finding it difficult to convince search officials, who believe the plane went down in the southern Indian Ocean, to consider their data. The international team of investigators who have been scouring the oceans for signs of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ever since it disappeared on March 8 say their data, including the final radar signals sent from Flight 370, have led them to focus their efforts in the so-called Southern Arc of the Indian Ocean.
According to GeoResonance, during the early days of the investigation when search efforts were centered in the Bay of Bengal, the company made aerial scans of the bay looking for signs of the missing aircraft.
“The only motivation is to help the families of the missing passengers and crew,†the company said, “knowing the company has the technology capable of the task.â€
GeoResonance discovered an “anomaly†roughly 1000 meters below the surface off the shore of Bangladesh. When researchers compared the scans to scans taken a few days prior to the plane‘s disappearance, they found that the anomaly wasn‘t there.
GeoResonance scanned the object for signs of various metals, particularly aluminum, which comprises 70 percent of the Boeing 777. The scans showed clear signs of aluminum on the ocean floor.
Researchers then switched to looking for traces of other aircraft materials like titanium, copper and steel, and discovered all of them were present. The result was a series of images that together form what looks like an intact plane.
GeoResonance said it sent its initial findings to investigators on March 31, according to CNN, and followed up with a full report on April 15. They were largely ignored. The company hopes that by going public with their findings they can encourage officials to consider their data seriously.
"The Australian-led search is relying on information from satellite and other data to determine the missing aircraft's location," the Joint Agency Coordination Centre, which is coordinating the multinational search, told CNN. "The location specified by the GeoResonance report is not within the search arc derived from this data. The joint international team is satisfied that the final resting place of the missing aircraft is in the southerly portion of the search arc."
According to CNN, while Australian searchers have ignored GeoResonance‘s data, Malaysian officials have said they are looking into the company‘s claim.
....it goes "beep" but only for 30 odd days
So are they still looking for this?
Looking for what?
It’s a bit surprising that nothing has shown up yet. You’d think at least some rwreckage. Assuming some of it floats.
It's a bit surprising that nothing has shown up yet. You'd think at least some rwreckage. Assuming some of it floats.
Agree that something should have been spotted by now, unless they are looking in the entirely wrong area.
I watched the Four Corners doco on this the other day. Conspiracy theorists have a case in this one I reckon.
