Political Correctness

[Vinnie_D]

@IceTemple

SJWs want to be free to insult, vilify, demonize, and ostracize to their hearts content. Whenever anyone has the gall to question one of their manifold, shape-shifting theses, they scream for censorship and censure. They invariably attack even the mildest opposition to their ideas by contorting it beyond recognition, interpreting it as bigotry and oppression, and concluding that the people who expressed it have no right to speak.

Nice, Temple

[Captain_Jack]

[Houli_Dooley]

@Captain_Jack has been red-pilled during lockdown. Amazing.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Was anyone surprised even in the slightest when Jordan Peterson got Me Tooed?

[Saucy]

No he didn’t…

[wannabe]

I think this is similar for most cultures. We are all a bit bogan (we like AFL, right?) but we we mostly use the word bogan when that family is making your street look bad (drinking and fighting in the front yard with shirts off etc) or you see bogans taking it to the extreme.
My wife is a self proclaimed wog (Serb) but doesn’t refer to people as that unless the tiler just insisted he get paid cash in hand or there’s a fight at the soccer or the Serbs have started trouble at the tennis etc.

[somo84]

I, for one, welcome our new Captain Jack overlord.

[benfti]

Yep, exactly like that.

On of my mates who’s indigenous was telling me a story last night how his brother (not his brother, his cousins but his mum and dad raised him, so he calls him his brother) got into a fight with a bus driver and he exactly said, oh and he was being a “f—king c—on on the bus so the driver told him to calm down and he went off”

[wannabe]

Other examples would be women calling other’s bits or a gay bloke telling his partner to stop being such a fking p*f.

It seems within all of us there’s a point where the stereotype (even our own group’s stereotype) is unavoidable and we reduce people to being less human and just a stereotype.

Notably there seems to be a kind of herd mentality where we try and pull people back if they are ruining our collective image. Like if one of your mates is acting badly and it’s reflecting badly on the group, or even if they are just dressing in a way that doesn’t reflect your values, etc.

[benfti]

So what you’re saying is Gillette’s campaign would have been fair more palatable if instead of saying “toxic masculinity” they should have just had dudes saying “stop being a Weinstein”

[wimmera1]

Cockwomble would have gone over even better!

[wannabe]

Had an interesting situation a week ago where I was catching up and playing Fortnight online with my brother (I’m 42yo & he’s 51yo and lives in Colorado), and we get put into a squad with 2 randoms.

Over the mic 1 of them says “Hey Ng**r", and my brother says “Woah, what’s with that greeting?” and they guy comes back with "What, Ngr? You don’t want me to say N*gr?” and my brother asks me if I want to leave and I say yeah lets go.

As we are leaving the guy start laughing at us saying “fckn white people, man” and “Gudday Maite” over and over again.

Maybe the guy was black, maybe we were oversensitive, maybe he was just a white racist idiot, or a black racist idiot, I don’t know. If a black person used it to describe another black person I probably wouldn’t feel like I had a right to lecture them on it, if a white person did I probably would (these days)

What I do know is the word being used just as a greeting or in conversation made me feel really uncomfortable. I wasn’t (and my brother wasn’t) trying to be a SJW. We left for selfish reasons. We were uncomfortable. Maybe the word makes us uncomfortable because it’s a symbol of guilt for the white privilege I’ve experienced?

[wannabe]

@benfti

So what you’re saying is Gillette’s campaign would have been fair more palatable if instead of saying “toxic masculinity” they should have just had dudes saying “stop being a Weinstein”

Exactly.

It’s like a “Code Red” from A Few Good Men.

[somo84]

Good post.

Your response to the other player showed emotional maturity.

@wannabe

I don’t know. If a black person used it to describe another black person I probably wouldn’t feel like I had a right to lecture them on it, if a white person did I probably would (these days)

Fair enough but do you believe this stance is absolute? I’ve worked with minorities that identify as black who have used the n word when addressing me as a term of endearment. They are also ok with me using that term when addressing provided it’s under the right circumstances. Would like to hear your or anyone else’s thoughts on this

As an interesting side note, I feel that a black guy referring to a white guy as ‘my n**ger’ is the kindest of displays. I guess everyone’s different.

[Alan_Noonan_10]

I suppose it’s like Aussies calling each other a c**t. Totally depends on the intonation, context and accompanying adjectives.

[wannabe]

@somo84

Good post.

Your response to the other player showed emotional maturity.

@wannabe

I don’t know. If a black person used it to describe another black person I probably wouldn’t feel like I had a right to lecture them on it, if a white person did I probably would (these days)

Fair enough but do you believe this stance is absolute? I’ve worked with minorities that identify as black who have used the n word when addressing me as a term of endearment. They are also ok with me using that term when addressing provided it’s under the right circumstances. Would like to hear your or anyone else’s thoughts on this

As an interesting side note, I feel that a black guy referring to a white guy as ‘my n**ger’ is the kindest of displays. I guess everyone’s different.

I guess that’s why I find political correctness etc so interesting.

Personally, I think the word has too much bad history so I wouldn’t use it to refer to black friends, even if they were cool with it. Then again I’m 42yo and I have some people of colour as friends, though not black as in African, and not close enough for us to see each other as siblings, etc. Maybe if the kids I grew up with were black we might have that closeness. I wouldn’t really judge anyone else’s close relationship, though, or feel the need to step in.

I probably wouldn’t mind if they used it to refer to me, provided the trust is there, but I’m not scarred from it being used to abuse me previously.

[OBITV]

@wannabe

Over the mic 1 of them says “Hey N g**r"

Larry David would respond with “Hey Caucasian!”.

[somo84]

Help me out on this one guys.

I live with an Australian born Chinese bloke. Very nice guy and good fun to live with. But my oh my does he make a lot of noise when eating. This is common amongst some East Asian cultures who don’t view these actions as a display of poor manners. Rather, such sounds are treated with indifference and sometimes even seen as a compliment to the chef.

But as for me, there are no words to describe how much I hate hearing those noises.

Obviously my thoughts on the matter apply to all ethnicities so put down your pitchforks and torches, you crazy kids.

So who’s the arseh*le? Me for possibly failing to be as accommodating and understanding as I could towards a good man that simply has a slightly different way of life? Or him for committing a faux pas and being ignorant of domestic etiquette?

[Houli_Dooley]

That is my pet hate. I’d be going bonkers inside trying to feign indifference to it.

[Saucy]

Just kindly say to him:

“Dude, you’re making a lot of noise when you eat. Can you please stop.”

Nothing wrong with that.