Politics

NO SUBSIDIES!

(except for our mates)

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It won’t. “Coal is good and tasty and gives you jerrrrrbs” sound bites is the level of analysis the media thinks the electorate can handle.

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It is the Liberal Party staying true to its core principles.

Now if we can only get my Labor Party to stay true to its core principles.

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They’ve effectively done a complete 180 degrees on a RET. by having to add coal buying to the energy mix it’s now almost a coal energy target. This could only happen in one country. Seriously.

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It reeks of LNP, under a rock, backbench idiocy. Then the PM has the audacity to come out and say “shut up everyone and stop being so partisan about it all.”

That, or just blanket coverage of something like Lisa Wilkinson moving to another channel while the government announce policy on the biggest political issue in the modern era. Our society is ■■■■■■.

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It’s good common sense. It mandates reliability and slows the shocking price increases that renewables cause at this point in time. Basically trying to prevent all of Australia going down the disastrous SA path.

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WW, I know people inside the industry. They say this will increase prices further by stifling investment for new generation, artificially adding marginal costs through coal and not addressing aging coal plants which can’t carry the grid in peak demand. The SA renewables thing is a load of bollocks and has been debunked over and over.

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If building new coal plants instead of renewables will reduce prices, how much can I expect my bill to go down by?

Absolutely heaps. Just let’s build them first and find out later.

That’s where there is a logic gap. We already have the coal generators and we just have to maintain them. You actually have to build the renewables including storage.
If you’d like an idea of how much this will increase your bills refer to SA.

I’m confident werewolf will be turned on this issue this time.

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Just “maintain” them? Do you have any idea what the refurbishment costs are to keep the old clunkers like Liddell going? Add to that keeping ancient generators going with marginal running costs against new, cheaper to build generation with zero marginal running costs.

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Exactly

Considering the NSW government sold Liddell to AGL for $0 I’d assume the maintenance costs>revenue. Just a guess

I think the refurbishment figure was somewhere in the vacinity of $500m. All good though. Public money would cover that. But, don’t even partially invest public money in a $100m wind farms!

Ironic, no?

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I’m going to wait for the details. Nothing really to see right now.

We won’t see that for many many many months though.

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And the capacity of the wind farms is? Their efficiency is? Their cost is? Storage costs are? $500m for Liddell when considering no storage requirements, efficiency, output and reliability is vastly, vastly cheaper.

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They should get rid of Turnbull’s socialist plan for Snowy Mountain 2.0 while they’re at it.

You’ve forgotten that renewables attract private investment. Investment in coal plants will have to be done publicly because no one else will finance it. That should tell you something. “Vastly, vastly cheaper”. Ok.

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Coal has to be extracted , carted , water supplied and waste disposed of. Those are costs on top of building and maintenance of the plant

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