So, theoretically the government could keep losing MPs to by-elections and all the Katters, PHONs NXTs and whatnot could just offer supply without the need for an election?
The whole thing like SSM is a farce - Australianâs love to waste money because of stupid laws or politicianâs inability to make a decision.
Yep, everyone is so very loving this voluntary postal survey costing over $100m, spreading toxic debate across the country for months and dividing people. We are loving it over here!
Turns out it wasnât just Australians making the decisions.
Haha, Tim Storer, the unsuccessful Xenophon Senate candidate at the last elections, has now nominated himself for the Xenophon vacant seat.
A joint sitting of the SA Parliament will need to decide whether he or Xâs nominee Patrick should take the vacancy.
The Constitution requires that the seat be filled from the same party, but X is muttering that it means the party nominee . This might expose how the X party takes its decisions.
Governing in our best interests.
This government lurches from one crisis to another. Turnbull is looking more like Billy McMahon every day.
I enjoyed Malcomâs comments on a citizenship/nationality audit of all federal MPs. It would cost to much was the point he made.
yeah good job â â â â â â â â , just spend 120 mil on a useless survey.
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Fer shizzle. Is there any answer he can give about anything that doesnât ring hollow or contrived now?
No.
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Turnbullâs best bet now is to rise up against the right of the LNP and tell them all to make love in a distant place.
Itâd probably get him the lemonade and sars but heâd at least have a chance of leaving politics with at least a modicum of honour and achievement.
PS Iâm not confident of it happening. He hasnât been as big a disappointment as PM as Malcolm Fraser but running him close.
Note that âdisappointmentâ means that we hoped for good things but didnât get them, therefore Rudd and Abbott are excluded. I thought they were both douche-bags from the off.
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I am really over the whole drama with section 44 and eligibility of MPs.
You would think by now all MPs would have checked and know their status, but it seems some are still holding out?
I suggest Parliament enact legislation to impose a two year jail term on any MP found to be at odds with Section 44 after January 1, 2018. Gives them two more months to fess up and resign.
Do the â â â â â â audit and letâs move on.
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I like how the line âIâm sure everyone has done their background check so everything is fineâ keeps getting trotted out.
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Maybe they should call in the AFP and charge anyone who is still infringing with fraud. No-one seems to take it that seriously, and for this latest idiot to know weeks ago and still sit in Parliament and take his pay is fraud.
And even in Frydenbergâs case, if he suspects he is infringing the constitution at all, he should stand down.
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Removed the superfluous words.
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Pretty rough if your granny gets persecuted by the Nazis, gets declared stateless, enters the country with a declaration of being stateless and then someone says Hungary wants to claim her kids.
Iâm a lot more concerned with Sam Dastyari with his Chinese connections, with political donations, particularly foreign donations and with pollies becoming lobbyists in areas they previously had an influence over.
Note that Iâm not a fan of Frydenberg at all and his pronouncements on energy issues give me the tom â â â â .
In my opinion, you should either be born into citizenship or seek to acquire that citizenship through descent to breach the law. The constitution was written before all these other laws like the NZ laws and we shouldnât need a referendum to sort it out.
Might also be handy if any party forced a stat dec from a candidate saying theyâve checked their status, with a chrcklist of things to tick off. Weâre not going to get a referendum passed to change the constitution.
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Candidates (party or otherwise) already sign a stat dec saying theyâre eligible. Some were just lying/clueless.
Labor Party does that, and I have seen the check list, it is comphensive. I am told that no Labor are suspect, but you never know.
In my view, it doesnât matter if Section 44 is archaic , it is law and as we have to obey, so do farking MPs. If they do a referendum, I reckon there is no chance it would get up.
Absolutely, itâs law. To the letter. Until itâs about the LNP. Then itâs not fair and they didnât mean it.
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I do agree that itâs law.
My point would have been that when the constitution was written, countries werenât conferring citizenship on offspring of people whoâd left their country. That seems to me to be the thing that changes, and it also strikes me as arrogant when another country says âyou are our citizenâ when you have no wish to be.
What is also worrying is that ministers knew about Parryâs concerns and did nothing. And the Coalition are dumb for not having an exhaustive checklist, and/or discussion with a lawyer versed in such matters before being preselected.
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