So Sheedy interfering with Judkins = flag & possibly best side ever but Sheedy interfering with Dodoro means rapid decline, GF to out of the 8 in 4 years & no finals wins since yet you & some others who share your lack of logic equate that as Sheedy was the problem not Dodoro. Seriously just let that sink in for a moment.
Am I reading you correctly, you don’t think Geelong during that period may have drafted a little better? Let me do the work for you even though you will simply ignore it. Geelong drafted 35 kids during the same period we drafted 39. They only had 6 top 20 picks as opposed to our 13 & 11 picks in the 20’s & 30’s (again as opposed to our 13). Yet they somehow managed to draft players like Bartel, Johnson, Hunt, Mackie, Lonergan, Selwood, Varcoe, Stokes & Taylor. More than half their 2009 premiership team was added during this period. Isn’t it possible they drafted better than we did? You seem incapable of making the connection between drafting poor players & onfield failure but surely some part of you must be able to see that drafting talented players is a crucial part of success. Again, if not then why defend Dodoro when he’s not responsible for anything & has done nothing but been ignored for 19 years???
You can’t simply ignore the list of names because it utterly destroys your position. Facts are facts, we didn’t draft enough quality players to maintain top 8 finishes or effectively re-build the side in spite of the fact that when Dodoro arrived he was handed the best list in the league. So what other than Dodoro changed in 1999? We know that Sheedy in his meddling ways had been succesful so if it wasn’t Dodoro & his list work post 1999 then what else was different? Did we lose the only effective piece of equipment in the Windy hill gym? Did we suddenly stop developing players & instead put all our resources into making the recruiters life impossible? Did Sheedy cop a knock on the head during the 2000 season & this made his interference less effective?
You make excuses like “we kept average player” with again showing no awareness that Dodoro was a part of those very decisions. They were ordinary players because he chose ordinary players. You can’t separate the fact that we had ordinary players from the person who was responsible for bringing them to the club. We didn’t keep ordinary players because it was the board’s decision to keep ordinary players, we didn’t have better players to replace them. Again we drafted 39 kids - thats nearly a full list turnover, this should have been enough to not have to keep the ordinary ones. Problem was when we got so few players up to standard from the 2000-2003 drafts we really had little to no choice but to keep some & to top up with recycled players. We didn’t trade in anyone in 2000 or 2001 & in 2002 we traded in Cupido who was still young & the best trade in Dodoro’s reign - McPhee. It was only when by 2003 & we had only 1 regular senior player from the previous 4 drafts & 1 rookie that we started dabbling in top ups. Even then to suggest that they were a significant factor is just moronic. We picked up Zantuck for pick 6 in the 2005 pre-season draft & he played 9 games. We also picked up Andrew Lee for pick 30 in the national draft that same year - he played 5 games.
I really am starting to wonder if you believe what you type or if you’ve backed yourself into a corner now & won’t admit the obvious. Can you not see that when we picked up Ty Zantuck that didn’t make Richmonds decision to draft him years earlier any less of a failure. Adelaide gave Tambling a second shot FFS, that doesn’t mean Richmond didn’t monumentally fark up in picking him in the 2004 draft. Other clubs rating a players talent before they’ve actually been at their club doesn’t mean the talent is there or that it can be developed into a senior player of any note. I’ve never suggested we’re the only club to have made mistakes. We may have picked Tambling as well if we’d had the same pick, other clubs may have as well - that doesn’t make that decision right. The point is you can’t use the excuse that Dodoro drafted enough talent but it was other factors that caused them to fail with us when there is simply no evidence to support that idea. With so many of our discards getting another shot, poor development being a significant factor for us would have shown up with players blossoming elsewhere. Again no other club was able to turn these guys around so its fair to say maybe possibly some of them might just have been poor picks.