Russia invades Ukraine - 2 - from 4 May 2022

What is about it that looks legit?

We are an official NGO called “Center for Assistance to the Army, Veterans and Their Families” in operation since 2014 - Registration. Your donation goes to an official account that is noted in the Public Offer. An independent reporter has written an article about our operation for the Business Insider - Article.

Do you accept donations to the National Bank of Ukraine?
We are grateful for your support to Ukraine through donations to other funds and NGO’s but we can’t accept them as proof of payment, because every donation we receive goes directly to the units we work with in the form of equipment, supplies, and other critical items. We work hard to cover the gaps left by the state procurement and supply chains.

Above just says they have no credentials from any authority whatever.

Even if they are genuine, why not just donate via the official audited bank accounts as listed at the official donations link?

eg

Beneficiary
National Bank of Ukraine
Beneficiary BIC
NBUAUAUX
Beneficiary Address
9 Instytutska St, Kyiv, 01601, Ukraine
Account Number
817532
BSB Code
092-002
Beneficiary Bank Name
RESERVE BANK OF AUSTRALIA, Sydney
Beneficiary Bank BIC
RSBKAU2S
Beneficiary Bank Address
GPO Box 3947, Sydney NSW 2000, Australia
Purpose of Payment
for ac 47330992708

That is specifically the “Defence and Demining” account which includes donations for:

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See above websites/photos/facebook/MSM articles etc. etc.
Counter-question: What is about it that doesn’t look legit?

Who said I was going to donate to them?
I found it interesting and wanted to post it here for fellow Blitzer’s. Should I have put “For Informational Purposes Only”? Again, you make your own totally un-based assumptions and inferences and then run hard with them for seemingly no other reason than to start some tit-for-tat contention.
EDIT: Anyways, it’s late. L8R

The fact that it is appealing to “keyboard warriors” to send money to unaudited accounts in competition with government fund raising and relying on:

above websites/photos/facebook/MSM articles etc. etc.

instead of working with the organizations actually fighting the war and raising funds for that fight.

I am not interested in arguments about assumptions and inferences.

I am simply stating my view that it is better to donate through officially sponsored channels.

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The United24 platform at that site is genuine.
The donations collected are used to provide basic , non weaponry equipment to the military.
There are other genuine sites dedicated to deliver assistance to civilians, including UNICEF, UNHCR , WFP and FAO , as well as reputable NGOs such as ICRC and MSF.
Andrew Forrest , through the Minderoo Foundation has pledged $1.8 million to the WFP, used for the export of UA grain by way of storage and shipping facilities, including WFP chartering of ships for Africa.
According to media reports, Forrest is aiming to encourage other large corporates to donate in this way. He has been photographed meeting with Zelensky in Kyiv.
The Japanese and Canadian Governments have also contributed to the WFP and the FAO to facilitate UA grain movement, which would extend to WFP purchases of grains from producers.
If people want to help Ukraine, there is a great need for assistance to its people.
I am not impressed with Ukraine posting pictures of dead Russian soldiers on official sites and highlighting the number of Russian military deaths. Deaths are inevitable in combat and what may be necessary by the combat armed forces, who pledge to serve their country. Not all Russians are evil.
There are well organised financing arrangements for the supply of weaponry, including through NATO and governments.
I am horrified at people blood lust in wanting to dedicate donations exclusively to lethal weaponry with the objective of killing and their names on bombs. The armed forces may have to do this unenviable job and it only detracts from their efforts for someone the other side of the world in their living rooms claiming that it was due to them opening their wallets.

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There would be a lot of interest if we can send one of these to Fat Vlad.

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What took them so long???

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If these are US driven and arranged through defense contractors, no surprises GunsRUS
I have never heard any of my family or friends who have been in combat ever boast about killing anyone.

The 78 DJI Matrice 300 RTK looks impressive.

Still only 55’ flight time with no payload, 31’ with maximum payload of 2.7 kg.

Graph shows various cameras etc that can be included as payload to trade off against flight time.

At maximum speed 23 m/s (82 km/h) for 30’ fully loaded could travel 40km (in S mode with no collision avoidance limits, in good conditions and ignoring takeoff and landing time) .

DJI certainly understand how to get open source developers on board:

User manual shows it has all bells and whistles though maintenance manual does not add much and recommends authorized maintenance after 200 hours or 6 months.

AUD $13K + lots of expensive add-ons

Service ceiling 5 km above sea level or 7 km with special rotors.

Say drone Landing and Recovery Zones (LRZs) every 15 km. Could reach a target half way between two LRZs 10 km behind front lines in 12.5 ‘, spend 5’ adjusting artillery and doing Battle Damage Assessment and either return to same LRZ or adjacent one within the 30’. (Or emergency landing at intermediate spot if had to spend extra time at target).

Max descent speed 5 m/s (ascent 6 m/s). If can climb at 5 m/s while travelling at max horizontal speed for 12.5’ would reach 3.75 km at target.

Could still be vulnerable while travelling. But with Jetson Orin would not be detected by radio emissions or vulnerable to jamming. Point defence radar or optical tracking seems more plausible than detecting and tracking small drones as they cross the front line.

Should one expect to do max climb and/or descent speeds while also max forward speed?

Alternative mode would be continuous patrol at high altitude but I assume longer endurance eg “Tactical” would be better for that and would handoff to smaller drones like this for actual engagement.

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ArmySOS a Ukraine NGO supplying other than combat weaponry to the army , including cheap tablets converted to loading maps and location use.
Written up in an Al Jazeera article of 26 August

  • How Ukraine turns cheap tablets into lethal [sic] weapons

Meanwhile, reported on its official site ( and to what purpose?) Ukraine summons Papal Nuncio to protest at the Pope’s description of Duvina as an innocent victim.

Army SOS site
armysos.com.ua

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Morning!

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Overnight strikes in Kherson in the post above.

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That one and the three others it links to do look more genuine without the disturbing smell.

They may play some role in mobilizing funds from people who explicitly don’t want to buy weapons and have less trust in Ukrainian government.

But I still think it is better for funds to support Ukraine be allocated by Ukraine through its official channels:

NGOs deciding which units to support and how has its own inherent problems even without greater risks of corruption or scams.

NGOs tripping over themselves and duplicating efforts, providing goods not fit for purpose, like people jumping on the bandwagon to supply cast offs to victims of natural disasters ( when what they really want is the money to purchase goods and services they need)
The army must love this.

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There have been reports of Russian ships registered as merchant ships and disguised as such being fitted with military weaponry. So many ships around the Crimea with their AIS turned off ( which would make them ineligible for insurance, so probably owned by the Russian government)
There are no restrictions on Russian grain and fertiliser cargoes and no inspection of them under the JCC Black Sea deal ( which does not cover the Azov in any event)

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