Crap players, crap coach. What do you expect the outcome to be? Everyone saying they’ll do a Richmond in sticking by a coach rather than sacking him, but you can argue that 2016 for Richmond was the anomaly. They made the finals from 2013-15, in '13 and '15 they won 15 games in the H&A season. If you go 15-7 you’re a good team. 2016 was poor but again in 2017 after some good recruiting, bringing in some new assistant coaches and a different game style, they got back to a 15-win season and then went all the way. In comparison the Pies haven’t made the finals since 2013. To expect them to make a quantum leap with the same coach, pretty much the same players (the only bloke they got in the trade period was a rookie-listed player from Sydney yet to play an AFL game) and close to the same backroom staff is ridiculous. Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? I’f they win any more than 9-10 games I’d be very surprised. 13th.