5k is nothing
What is the cost of a match suspension?
Match day payment plus number of games played to be eligible for other benefits.
If that was their intention and if that thought even crossed their minds, they wouldn’t have done it I’m sure. Their intent was to mock the rapists, that’s as far as their thought would have gone, because it didn’t need to go further, they were in a private room with their mates that they would have known it wouldn’t offend.
We are in a society now where someone can be told what their intention is, by someone completely external, that picks out the offence they wanna see in it.
It’s a private event where they should only need to consider if it offends any of their mates in the room, not some snake in the back office going through cctv footage trying to find something to dob them in over. They weren’t even invited to the party, so their feelings didn’t need to be considered.
I mean ffs, a black guy got fined for dressing up as a black slave, that all his black teammates agreed would be funny. But old whitey comes in, sees a good opportunity to virtue signal and feign’s offence on behalf of black people lol.
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How would they know it wouldn’t offend them? What if one of the players had been raped? Or their partner? Or their mother?
I can’t stand Family Guy, l didn’t find it at all funny, precisely because it is so sexist.
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I just really don’t know what to say to this, I’m bewildered.
This has nothing to do with somebody being offended. This is about young men being active participants in a culture that trivializes and normalizes rape. It starts with jokes, and sexist attitudes, and locker room/mates banter. These seemingly harmless incidents, in private or otherwise, lay the foundations of excuses for far more serious and abhorrent behavior. That in the overwhelming majority of cases goes unpunished.
This isn’t some precious snowflake virtue parade, no matter how much you want it to be.It’s about behaviour and attitudes that for so long has undermined the safety of women in our community, not knowingly or vindictively, but it has done so nevertheless.
And as men, we all have a responsibility to change that.
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With the facts as presented I do struggle with Idun’s fine. Not sure how recreating a movie scene after seeking permission of his teams mates is a fineable offence.
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I disagree. I’ve never been around guys that think rape, sexual assault, domestic violence etc are ok and was exposed to plenty of guys that thought they were the toughest of the tough through school, sport etc. In fact, it’s always been seen as weak and frowned upon and those suspected of it actively mocked. Isn’t that the culture we want, where these people are looked down upon in society, or do we want them to have a free ride amongst their peers and it never mentioned publicly?
I would say the accessibility of ■■■■■■■■■■■ these days has more influence on these behaviors and the courts as usual doing a terrible job with punishments for these crimes. My ex wife worked with sex offenders upon their release from prison for years, there was always a common thread and it had nothing to do with the so called trivializing of rape in society by groups of young men.
You’re focusing only on the overt or acute end of the spectrum, usually violent and predatory, and only makes up but a fraction of all cases of rape and sexual assault every year.
The overwhelming majority of cases never see a courtroom, much less result in a conviction, because our society has allowed for a culture to establish where the only way a woman is raped is if a man violently forces himself upon her.
Go and read Chanel Contos’ “Consent Laid Bare” to understand the true depth of the problem that is rape culture in this country…
It’s more than rape, a culture which treats women as objects and denigrates them.
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I love Family Guy too.
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100%
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Yes, turned a blind eye on it. Realised now more than ever. It’s even worse than I thought. How sad, people in the society like an example @Clone_Hirdy have no moral prospective
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Go on…
The AWFL are merely protecting their investment in the AFLW competition. The players are easy targets for the likes of Dillon and co. Tackling poor behaviour by others in industry might mean that their own poor choices might come under scrutiny.
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how do you simulate consensual sex with a blow up doll?
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Probably don’t do that either
So Twin Towers, Django Unchained, rape case, athlete/schoolgirl skit. All likely offensive for mine, except perhaps Django.
Isn’t that the point?
A large part of bonding is transgression. The comedian criticises the politicians we don’t like (but wouldn’t bag publicly), the teacher unexpectedly swears, the relative bags another family member behind their back, the boss offers you a drink at work. By doing something a bit off, they are vulnerable and testing if you support them. If you indulge it, you are likewise vulnerable.
It’s not really healthy bonding, it can lead to manipulation, it often makes light of awful suffering. However it does create a shared “us against them” culture which is why I think it’s so attractive in groups.
So call it out when it’s foul by all means, but be aware that often it’s mainly the “edge” of it all that people value.