From my experience, the dodginess/criminal record of the proprietor plays a large part.
Dirty old Angelo, who’d done 2 separate stints at her majesty’s leisure, and had far more knives around than really seemed necessary, and would occasionally show you ■■■■ when you went in after school still in your (primary) school uniform was the best ever at the local.
All the other 4 or 5 proprietors have been just OK.
@Riolio I’m 4 hours from any coast. If I used your criteria, I’d never eat fish from a chippy. That said, we’ve got a couple of chippies that still get fresh fish delivered daily. Worth their weight in gold around here.
But for me, it’s the overall presentation of the chips, the thickness of the potato cakes (ie - more potato please), and how generous the staff are with the chicken salt that will get me coming back.
And if they then throw in an extra potato cake or two - I’m sold.
@Riolio I'm 4 hours from any coast. If I used your criteria, I'd never eat fish from a chippy. That said, we've got a couple of chippies that still get fresh fish delivered daily. Worth their weight in gold around here.
But for me, it’s the overall presentation of the chips, the thickness of the potato cakes (ie - more potato please), and how generous the staff are with the chicken salt that will get me coming back.
And if they then throw in an extra potato cake or two - I’m sold.
@Riolio I'm 4 hours from any coast. If I used your criteria, I'd never eat fish from a chippy. That said, we've got a couple of chippies that still get fresh fish delivered daily. Worth their weight in gold around here.
But for me, it’s the overall presentation of the chips, the thickness of the potato cakes (ie - more potato please), and how generous the staff are with the chicken salt that will get me coming back.
And if they then throw in an extra potato cake or two - I’m sold.
Any fresh fish that gets bought will no doubt be from one of the big fish markets anyway (Footscray in Vic, can’t remember the Sydney one). I know some places in Lakes get their Lakes Entrance prawns driven up every day from Footscray.
Get those right and you will get a lot of word-of-mouth business.
Agreed. My favoured local in Eltham has dropped the ball in the past few months. Chips taste oily and stale. Fish serving is smaller than previous. Have started to travel to the fish shop in Burgundy st Heidelberg for good quality f&c but, because it’s too far from home, have to eat it there.
There’s a fish and chip place near me that’s passable. I’ve been spoilt though because I lived near the ocean for 22 years. Fish and chips were always so nice.
There was a great Greek run place near work here. The oil was always clean, fish was a good size, batter and chips always crunchy. And then it sold to Asians and it’s gone downhill.
In conclusion, good, clean, oil should be the foundations for every fish and chippery. If I get my chips and they’re brown then that’s it.
Theo’s down from Windy Hill at the Essendon Station roundabout (think it’s a 7/11 now) used to be the best greasy burgers back in the late 70’s/early 80’s. Best filler after a bevy session.
Huge difference between steamed dim sims & fried. The Asian owned F&C owners do the big fat steamed dimmies full of cabbage & pork mince & they are great with a bit of soy sauce. Fried dimmies are usually fried within an inch of their lives & I reckon would bounce like a squash ball if you dropped them, so it has to be steamed every time, which is ■■■■■■ hard in FNQ, since they all like deep fried crap up here.
I don’t agree with eating flake - the general public have a crack about the Chinese & their shark fin soup, yet the Victorians are just as guilty with their consumption of flake. Mind here in FNQ, they all eat mackeral as your stock standard fish, but it’s not bad.
The batter has to have soda water in the mix to lighten it & make it a bit tempura-like. Trying to get grilled or crumbed usually means the thinner bits on the edges are dried out too much, due to irregular thickness. It has to be battered, but only thin & light, not thick & sludgy, to at least keep the fish moist.
Best F&C I ever had was at a pub in Kingscote over on Kangaroo Island - battered KG Whiting - magnificent!