Fair enough. I think we can all agree that their contracts are disastrous though.
Hmm, we got decent value for Melksham, Carlisle and Hibberd. We got SSS for a steal. Shiel was about the right price, we just all hoped/expected to pay less.
I think Scully is more of a Hawthorn thing - clubs seem to go crazy with them. Mitchell for pretty much pick #13. OâMeara for #10 and an early second rounder. Gunston for peanuts. Hale cheap. Gibson cheap. Scully for peanuts. The list goes on. And trading out of N. Thompson and Hayes was ridiculous. About the only time they pay full value is with Port (Burgoyne & Wingard).
Um, Iâm not sure if youâd get that agreement. We donât really have a clue what theyâre even on.
I could certainly see us getting Sier & Frampton, even with the picks we have. I also think we will probably trade a player this season, and have more picks to play with.
North Melbourne will not be letting go of Zurhaar. I agree with that. Collingwood will still have the same midfield next season and I doubt Sier wants to be playing in the reserves next season again.
?? Hooker is still playing great football. And Hurley is more than serviceable. If you go back and see what happened the last time we forcibly traded great servants eg Caracella and Hardwick - now that was disastrous.
Iâm not sure what players weâd be moving on that have trade value. Unless we end up losing someone like Parish thoroughly against our will, then who is it going to be? Zaka and Hooker are coming up on 30, even if you were willing to trade them you wouldnât get much in exchange purely based on age (and who replaces Hooker on field, anyway? If youâre moving on Hooker then youâre writing off his generation which includes guys like Zaka and Hurls and even Hepp at a stretch), and committing to building a new backline from kids). Nobody will trade for guys like Harts, they know theyâll likely be able to pick him up as a delisted free agent for nothing. There might be a bit of interest in whichever of Gleeson/Ridley/Francis/Redman arenât getting a regular game, but again, if they arenât getting a regular game their currency isnât going to be all that high. If we want to trade into the first round (especially the top 10) then youâre going to have to put a lot more on the table than you have so far. And is it really worth shoving someone like Hooker out, who is still an extremely effective player and a much-loved leader around the club, just to bring in another 3nd rounder or something?
I think Hooker is easily the most important player at the club and would never trade him. I want him to finish his career with us.
I was just mentioning two players that would fill a need and who you could get at a good price. Would you need first rounders for either Sier or Frampton? You would know better than me.
I honestly wasnât saying we would be getting any first round picks back in a trade. I think if we donât make finals, some changes will be made.
Yep, Hooker should be considered untouchable. Why? Respect.
How about hitting the draft for the next two years - We have no need to trade in players unless itâs a FA and even then I have reservations.
FFS, we need draft picks, not second rate vfl/sanfl players
we will be in serious trouble if we dont get a few good 18yo kids in this draft
Serious trouble? Thatâs a bit of a stretch. Our list is still pretty young
But I agree our approach this year should be stocking up in the draft
The list is youngish, but the best 22 and the tall stocks are surprisingly old.
Itâs easy to forget that guys like Brown and Smack are well into their late 20s, even though they havenât played that many games comparatively. Even Daniher is into the second half of his career now.
I see our needs as a pool of developing talls and a few high upside smalls. Smalls have a chance to contribute to the now and the talls need to start now in order to be ready when our current crop retire.
Iâd be shocked if we trade any players in this year. We may trade out picks/player to get back into the first round. Unlikely though.
I reckon with a potential retiree or two it may free up some cash to spend on a free agent and then just take a chance in the draft with the picks we have. Although signing up Walla, Parish and Francis etc will probably eliminate any spare cash saved from the retirees.
Iâm expecting a boring trade week and draft this year.
I canât remember who it was in the last few days who wanted to trade Raz to Adelaide, but whoever it was, go â â â â yourself and do the right thing by the world.
We have a fair idea what Hurls and Chook are on.
It isnât as simple as the club making a trade with another club. If the player is not interested then the whole thing falls over.
As for Sier and Frampton, If they truly wanted midfield time and that was their sole goal would they not go somewhere like Carlscum or Gold Coast where they would get a game every week?
Not necessarily, it would be a factor, but letâs be honest nobody who harbours even the smallest faintest hope of success would be going to FC for another couple years at least.
And surely nobody other than Turk actually wants to live on the Gold Coast.