If Crisp came in 2014 trade period, does it help Hirdy keep his job?
Would have been a better pickup than Cooney and costed less.
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Why? How?
Iāll just take it from the horses mouth instead. Paints a pretty different picture.
Even the bloke youāre quoting said itās murky given the lack of timestamps on the show. Canāt say I watched it myself though, have you?
Regardless, Iām ok with not getting the deal done in 2021 (Though if the haggling was really over a 3rd rounder, weāre talking Alistair Lord or Sam Weideman here). Would have also cost us Hayes though.
My issue is that we told him weād try again the following year, then completely ghosted him. Thatās pretty ā ā ā ā ā ā up.
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Only half true.
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Yeh future second would be Hayes or Hill.
You probably take Hill
I guess dodoro thinking needed third round for matching for Davey.
He wasnāt the missing piece for a premiership though.
The ghosting thing does sound bad. We only getting one side of the story though.
What changed though - we got Brad Scott in 2022, that was october and shouldn;t ahve stopped contact throughout the year.
Maybe it was Rutten who was keen on bringing in Hill and Scott was less Keen. Plus Daveyās and Munkara were arriving.
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We didnt get him becuase Dodo refused to give up 3rd as well lols
Thank god heās gone where he cant fark up anymore
Retrospectively, yes. But Hill had done nothing when we were talking to GWS
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The Lachie Neale trade; picks 6, 19 and 55 in exchange for Lachie Neale and pick 30.
What a trade by the Lions! Weāre all talking about 2, potentially 3 first rounders for Harley 
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Iāve been thinking how many good players, maybe even better than good, have been traded in for peanuts. Itās remarkable how many there are.
So i just had a quick look through this roundās teams, (plus injury lists). I havenāt bothered looking up the specifics of the trades, but from memory all the below were ācheapā - as in 2nd rounders or cheaper in many cases.
Key backs - May, Lever, McGovern, Battle, Allir, Lobb, Howard, Battle.
HB/Small defender - Amon, Baker, Noble, Zorko, Clark, Haynes
Wing - Langdon, Acres, Hollands, DāAmbrosio, Duursma
HF/Small forward - Stengle, Hill, Cameron
KP forward - Hogan, Wright, McStay
Ruck - Cameron, Meek, Nankervis, Grundy, Witts
Onballers - Hewett, Macrae, Cerra, Caldwell, Taranto, Hopper, Steele, Ward, Dawson, Bedford, Treloar
Iāve left out high profile and costly trades like Dangerfield, Cameron, Horne-Francis, Jackson, Lynch, Neale, Bolton.
Itās unbelievable how many good players in there who came cheap.
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Agree with your overall thoughts, but your first 2 examples (May and Lever) cost pick 6 and 10 respectively
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Lever was 10 and another first round pick.
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And Battle listed twice but was a FA
Yeah, I knew thereād be a few I didnāt recall that well. No doubt quite a few second rounders, and some complicated ones where theyāre part of a complicated multi club/mult player trade so the cost is not clear cut, and a few via free agency (the ultimate cheapie).
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The ones that stand out to me are Lever and May as mentioned, Taranto (2 first rounders), and Cerra (pick 6?). Taranto and Cerra trades happened very quickly and with minimal fuss, so I get how as an Essendon fan youād assume nothing of high value was traded, because at Essendon itās not really a high value trade unless in happens with 30 seconds to go after weeks of public fighting.
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Iām pretty sure Zorko, Hollands (winger), are single club players, and Taranto, Hopper, and others werenāt cheap either.
Reid please.
Gimme that big bull rollicking his way through that Sydney midfield in the 2nd half.
We need it.
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Starting to come around to the H Reid mega trade play.
Thought we had too many gaps so needed to hold draft picks this yearā¦ but with:
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Some of the young āpotentialā showing performance (Reid, Roberts, Caddy looking good and Perkins, SEH, Hayes, Kako looking credible)
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Solid older core
Might come down to if 2025 NGAās keep building ā¦ if do, weāll have enough talent making Harley the star power to compliment Merret.
If we donāt use our draft leverage this year, Harley will likely go to cats or hawks (cheaper) when off contract next year.
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Be good if WC can push Harley to pick Essendon
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Its looking like we are going to be bringing in 2 really solid academy players this draft, and then Bewicks son in a year or 2?
I think now is absolutely the time for us to be going for a big fish with draft picks as long as they fit the age profile.
I dont recon we are that far off from a top 4 challenge.
We are a young side with young talent who just needs to get experience together and keep playing. Our best footy can match it with just about anyone, we just cant produce it for long enough yet.
The Spine is looking great for the next 5 years.
Reid Hayes Roberts
Caldwell, Durham, Martin
Caddy and Kako
Thats just some of our younger guys who will only get better and will be at the club for the next 7+ years. And all of those players have potential to be A graders in the league, some of them already are.
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That forward line has a nice Gerreyn shaped hole in it.
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