Trade talk - from October 2024

[Houli_Dooli]

except that Goldy, LAV and Wright are still on the list.

every man and his dog wanted Kelly and Heppell to be replaced at least one time during the last couple of years.

We were the 7th ranked team last year for experience.
this year ranked 8th so far.

Goldy may skew it, but hes still on the list.

[Finding_Nino]

Well yeah im happy with this approach

[Tbone]

The core of our next phase has to be focused on the 50+ group and below as the ones above are the same ones that have let us down year on year when the heat comes

[Josh]

Fark it bring Narkle Home*

Home as in our 23 over Menzies

[Finding_Nino]

Get him so we can call him fark narkle

[bltn]

@Finding_Nino

Teams got us at the right time in the second half of the season when we were out form

It’s the same sh*t every year.
Garbage team after the Bye.
We scrape a few lucky wins when the oppo are terrible…
ie Coll this year, or Crows at Marvel in '23.

Whenever a team comes with any heat, we crumble.
Sick of it TBH.

[samwoods]

@Josh

Fark it bring Narkle Home*

Home as in our 23 over Menzies

Has finals experience.

[Alan_Noonan_10]

Prior sits behind Starcevich, Answerth and Coleman, but he’s always been OK when I’ve watched.

Definitely my favourite. No to Witherden. ■■■■ no to Narkle. Don’t know enough about Hoare, and don’t know whether Rotham fills a hole either. Why are WCE dumping him? No need for Culley either.

[The_Ant]

I’d put Freo ahead of Port and Geelong.

They are stacked.

[Houli_Dooli]

I dunno if i trust Fremantle, I mean they lost to us late in the season when the wheels had fallen off and they had finals to play for.

Always hoping end is near for cats, but Hawkins and Tuohy were past their best and Smith will boost their midfield.

Port, a poor start and fans will be calling for Hinkley’s sacking.
Their midfield still young and will improve - Butters, Rozee & Horne, boak playing on they will be there abouts.

[Aceman]

I really liked Scully as a junior and still reckon he can make himself a decent player

[Houli_Dooli]

Is that the tall KPF? was rated a top draft pick early days. ended up pick 53.

203cm kicked 50 goals as a junior in under 18’s.

Thomas Scully | AFL

Tom Scully Draft Profile

Convert from soccer.
West Adelaide boy like Francis.

[Aceman]

Yep. Still only 19 and has natural forward ability. I think he might get a go somewhere else

[Tbone]

Feels like a very weird delisting as developing forward seems to be ticking boxes

[Finding_Nino]

Same.

[Ants]

@Tagger

@Ants

We should have traded him (and made more substantial changes) after finishing 15th in 2022.

Sounds like that is what Mahoney and Rutten advocated for. In classic Essendon Board fashion, they backed in the list

Out of curiosity, what is this based on? Just not read it before.

[Ants]

@FTWinderlich

@Ants

We’ve finished bottom 4 once in the last 8 years. What makes you think it will happen next year?

• Very young team, severe lack of leadership on and off field, severe lack of star players.
• Question marks over coaching, team selection and development.
• 2024 was held together by a very good year from 5 players. What happens next year?
• Subtle messaging from the club about next year being a bit of a reset

We’ve got Langford, Merrett, Draper, Ridley, Lav, McGrath, Goldstein, Shiel, Setterfield, Wright, Redman, Parish, Gresham who are all over 25ish. Caldwell and Duursma ~24. It’s not a young side.

The same coach and mostly same team had us finish above bottom 4 both the last two years.

[Ants]

@Mackster

It’s probably been discussed already on here but appears Richmond have done well.

Won 3 premierships and have now turned their draft hand into picks 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24 on what sounds like an excellent draft year.

Lose some premiership players but really they’ve been there and done that so better off for both clubs that they have a fresh start.

Now that’s how you do a rebuild.

If they could take back the Hopper and Taranto trades. But yes, generally they’ve done well.

[primmer1978]

@Ants

If they could take back the Hopper and Taranto trades. But yes, generally they’ve done well.

I agree, but they will need to nail most of the picks. They haven’t got much left to trade so it is this year or an extended period on the bottom. The chances of finding another Dustly are remote to I think. I will watch them next year with interest, will be looking fro hits and misses from this draft.

[Ants]

@Bombastic

What a strange board this is. The complaint is that our list and our culture aren’t good enough, then people suggest that we should have kept Stringer (who was the very antithesis of good culture ), cull half the list (another culture destroyer) and recruit discards from other clubs who weren’t good enough for them ( including bottom 4 clubs). The club has made it very plain about the direction it is taking which I believe is sober and well thought out. Set standards high, place belief in youth and hit the draft (with 3 first round picks in 2 years).

You’re equating views of many different Blitzers views into one (contradictory) position. Very much a strawman. I’d also point out:

• trading out half the list is meant to destroy the culture. The bad one. So we can start clean.
• The ones wanting to cull the list don’t want discards.
• The club has lied about the direction. Otherwise why didn’t they make more substantial changes? We got Gresham/Goldy/McKay after Scott’s first y.
• These are roughly the same players as under Worsfold, under Rutten and under Scott for two years. Why on earth would we expect standards to change?*
• We’ve literally got no more first round picks than we started off with + Kako who is an AFL freebie. Where is any youth policy?