US politics - is weird (part 6)

I would expect further import restrictions against China under either Presidency, but more measured under Harris and taking into account wider US economic interests in a Congress in protectionist mode.
Trump ran a cart and horse through world trade rules, rules negotiated to reflect US interests. Trade wars make him look tough, but trade wars can escalate to bigger wars. The fires could be hard to extinguish.

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He’s going to discover that ChatGPT can generate text as well as images soon

‘Write me a paragraph for twitter that sounds presidential’

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You say here that everybody is entitled to a difference in opinion, I agree with that. In the same thread you have said abortion rights are more complicated, and that it’s okay for somebody who has strong religious beliefs to use that as justification to remove other womans right to an abortion if they choose? Another woman who may not follow the same religion or hold the same beliefs?

It’s classic conservative bullshit

WE WANT SMALL GOVERNMENT!
(But only for us)

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Yeah righto. Policy.

Even the king of put downs and fear theres some idea of what the US will get.

Whats Kamala going to do in office?

That country needs policy. Its ridiculously divided on ideology.

No-one in USA and in most other places ever get elected on policy. Even way back in 1972 when Gough Whitlam won an election with a policy driven campaign and “Its Time”, it was more about how badly the Liberal Government was going. The rallies and TV ads that Labor did were the turning point with a charismatic Leader like Gough, doing to do with ideology.

Reckon we could also argue “ideology” generally, as most Voters have little or no understanding of Poltical Ideology, and that is especially in USA where there are warped belief systems around all sorts of things.

No doubt all Countries need strong progressive policy, but it doesn’t win elections; ask Bill Shorten.

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Trump’s first term was basically him enjoying the trappings of power, but not being overly effective or focused on any specific policy. Trump doesn’t do policy, he does vibe. Most of the problematic legislation and court stacking during his term was the end game of guys like McConnell who had worked for 20 years to take control via the court system. Trump facilitated, but didn’t drive this agenda. Much of what he clumsily tried to do was blocked by law abiding members of his own party.

So with that context in mind, a second Trump term is going to have less guard rails. The MAGA Republicans have infiltrated most aspects of the GOP and are going to support instead of hinder any action by Trump. Trump has also learnt a lot, so is unlikely to be as ineffective as he was in 2016. Finally, the 2025 project should be taken seriously as it is the equivalent of the previous planning that Trump took credit for. Trump doesn’t do policy, but he will listen to people that have policy ready to go.

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What does Kamala stand for?

Im not talking details….but something other than “not trump”(which has ended in him being shot at)

All they have in the states is two sides whipping up hate against each other.

For all this “high road” rhetoric from the democrats it would be interesting to know what that road looks like?

Trumps probably not going to be great for our foreign interests, id like to see what Harris brings to the table.

And hopefully neither lead that country into recession - because we will most likely get it here.

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FOX polling is pretty close in the swing states. And Fox polls tend overestimate the GOP vote.
Trump clearly DOMINATING.

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The same things Biden stood for with a younger outlook, and the details actually do not matter.

One of the joys of democracy, same here, same in every democracy in the World. Doesn’t make it good or right but that is how it is.

It is an election campaign, so it does not mean jackshit

Our economy doesn’t follow or depend on the USA, bigger issues with economic problems in China as our biggest trading partner. Recession will happen here or not, dpends on the farking RBA at present.

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That’s simply not true. If the USA has a recession, the rest of the world has a recession. Sure, there are mitigating factors, like China, but clearly the USA is the major economic driving force worldwide.

GFC says no (and that was not your garden-variety recession).

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For Australia, the Chinese economy and protectionism against China is the major influence.
It’s our major export market and our biggest commodity earner.
It’s not just strategic interests driving US antagonism to China. I’d rank China as much more than a mitigating factor.

I’ll be interested to see how our more Right Wing members defend Trump on this.

What a POS he is…and his cronies and hangers on.

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He was there by invitation of the family of a slain soldier, it could be that not all Vets and Trump voting families of Vets would be outraged or too concerned that he used the visit to dump on Harris.

Not a big deal, (right?) that’s only trumpy being trumpy, his usual irreverent self. :face_vomiting:
He’s a vile human, without a single redeeming feature.

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that’s not quite how it works Bigallan.

And that part is fine.

It’s the bit where they were told they couldn’t film in that area and yet they did so (after manhandling an Arlington Official).

Nobody is allowed to film there (without permission)…not even ex presidents!!!

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Except for the fact that filming is not allowed, and it’s illegal to be used for political purposes.

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