US politics - The ICE epidemic (part 10)

Oh, man.

You really butchered that.

You revealed the punchline up front.

You took away the element of suprise that the entire joke is built upon.

It just doesn’t work without it.

Where’s the building of suspense? The jolt at the end?

Awful, awful business.

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LOL, I couldn’t remember the joke.

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Clearly you could, just in completely the wrong order.

States can absolutely cede powers. But the blue states are hardly likely to cede election powers to Trump.

Everyone hated Maggie T when she was the guvnor. Now that the UK is in such a state they’re crying out for an iron maiden.

Bit hard to keep the punchline a surprise when the joke’s about 100 years old. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Given quite aptly this thread which is much about trump has morphed into a discussion of goat farking, if you read “Selkirk’s Island” by Diana Souhami, it tells the story of the real person on whom the story of Robinson Crusoe was based.
Although on his return from the island he described his spiritual awakening and having found God in his solitude, on his deathbed he repented and admitted he was so desperately lonely he would break the resident female goats’ legs to both milk them and have sexual relations with them.

Yes it’s true. Robinson Crusoe was a goat farker.

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While there’s no smoking gun, there’s a very clear potential connection.

  • Putin is mentioned in the Epstein files 1055 times. That’s excluding anything that has not been released by an agency that is aligned to Trump’s interests.
  • Putin is former KGB, an agency known to use young women as honeytraps to gain intelligence and blackmail.
  • The main source of girls for the island was Russian modelling agencies.
  • Trump’s enjoyment of young women was quite well known, it’s very plausible that he became caught up in kompromat through his own actions or those of his inner circle. Even evidence of what was happening around him during visits to the island would be enough.
  • Trump also had some very suss business dealings in Russia, reportedly leaning on oligarch funding when the US banks blacklisted him.
  • Since becoming President, Trump has had at least one behind closed doors meeting with Putin, with no American present, not even a translator.
  • Trump has made a number of odd moves regarding Russia that fit behaviour of someone compromised. Russia is the only country in the world not tariffed, all aid to Ukraine has ceased, counterintelligence and disinformation combatting measures have been killed off.

Could all this just be coincidence and joining dots that are in reality unrelated? Sure. But if it came out that Trump had done something illegal and it had been used by Putin to manipulate the President or the United States, I would be in no way surprised.

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Was Thatcher female ? Thought it was just a very ugly bloke in a dress.

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Well apart from Bob Brown, the Greens females are easily the pick of the crop for them.

Im glad we agree.

Liz Oyer, ex pardon Attorney for the DOJ reports good insights into the state of the DOJ. She is clearly concerned about the hollowing out of the experienced DOJ staff both through firings and resignations on moral and professional ethical grounds, the morale of those who are left and the level of political interference in its direction.
She is no Lindsey Halligan in many respects. Worth a listen.

Sheesh.

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But based on known behaviours of all participants it is very, very likely.
In fact it is far less likely that Epstein didn’t collect Kompromat on Trump. I mean, that was his entire business model and Trump was the ideal target.

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Yes, buuuuuuuut, there’s no video of Epstein walking Donald by the hand into a red bedroom where a 13 year old Russian girl is waiting and Putin is standing by the bedside like a Bishop at a medieval wedding consummation. So, stop discussing it TDS boy.

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It is extremely likely that Putin would have liked to get kompromat on Trump. That doesn’t mean that there was any.

Because Trump is such a straight laced boy scout that he would never put himself in a position where someone who is desperately trying to get kompromat on him, could do so……

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Are your alarm bells going off with Trump? Where’s your gut feel?

Except Trump’s best mate Epstein ran an industrial scale honey trap that pandered to Trump’s exact weaknesses. So it is very likely that he did have Kompromat on Trump. The question is, what did he do with it? As you say, Putin would be all over it (unless he already had his own). So ….

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If this was the Cold War and hundreds of US VIPs were having sex with Russian models on a child sex island, I’m pretty sure espionage alarm bells would have been ringing.

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