I found this Australian documentary very informative and I believe it will refute your assertion Saladin my old mate. I really hope people take the time to watch it right through. There are some very startling FACTS in this presentation.:-
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsT5EoIk8U[/youtube]
VD - I like your contributions, and I'm glad you're back.
Having said that, here's the thing about conspiracy theories.
The fact that something exists on the internet to support your theory does not mean that your theory has any credence. Far from it.
There's people on the internet, with qualifications, who write credible looking articles in the year 20 and farking 14 stating that the earth is flat and the holocaust never happened and that Kennedy was actually an alien from a distant planet who was about to be exposed.
Nobody in this thread is a scientist or a doctor (I'm assuming). Therefore NONE of us come from a background where we have any specific knowledge on the subject. Consequently, the only thing we can do to inform ourselves is read the work and the views of others. The ONLY rational thing that a person can do in this circumstance is adopt the view of the vast majority of experts, as none of us have any specific knowledge that would refute that view.
The view of the overwhelming majority of medical experts, of course, is that there is no proof, NONE, that vaccines cause autism or any other learning difficulties.
If you wish to disagree with this view, then go to medical school, become an expert, and write a paper from a position of knowledge. Don't just regurgitate the (discredited) views of a tiny minority and call it 'proof'.
Or - watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
Apart from silly generalisations and straw man examples (shown in red), which are ALWAYS a sure sign that someone is resorting to cheap tricks to make their point, here is the weakness with your method of assessing things:-
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.â€
― Mark Twain
“Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.â€
― Leo Tolstoy
“I don't imagine you will dispute the fact that at present the stupid people are in an absolutely overwhelming majority all the world over.â€
― Henrik Ibsen
“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widely spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.â€
― Bertrand Russell
"There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.â€
― Michael Crichton
“In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place.â€
― Mahatma Gandhi
“Of course, the aim of a constitutional democracy is to safeguard the rights of the minority and avoid the tyranny of the majority.â€
― Cornel West
There's a million more but I think you get the point.
Oh, and to put that 90 second Penn & Teller rubbish up against a 90 minute intelligent presentation is, well, frankly insulting. It's clear you'll just go along with the mob. And, mate, if that's your bent, that's fine go right ahead. But, PLEASE, don't try and drag me along. I'll stay with those who oppose. Thanks.
Oh, PS if you wish to disagree with the view that the Catholic Church has the right to preach to you and tell you what to do (they are the majority remember) then go to priest school and become ordained into the priesthood. Otherwise you're not entitled to have a view. Get it? :lol: :lol: :lol: