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How many AFL clubs have 3 ruckmen on their AFL list?

Three questions to figure out what we mean by ruckman:
Does Wright count as a ruckman? Does Van Rooyen? Does Isaac Keeler?

Actual ruckmen not pinch hitters. Donā€™t know much about Freo but they run double ruck and would have an actual ruckman waiting in the wings surely

So Iā€™d say the saints, demons, port, and suns would probably count as three ruck teams (on their list). The dockers I think have about 5.

Draper, Bryan, Wright, Visentini.

Goldstein is not needed, and his 2024 form wasnā€™t remotely close to justifying another year. I donā€™t even want to have to consider the possibility that he could represent our club at AFL level again.

If he gets another year itā€™s a ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  enormous black mark against Brad Scottā€™s integrity. The club doesnā€™t owe his mates any favours.

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Jake Kelly
:partying_face:

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An absolute disgrace if he ends up with a list spot. Not required in any way, shape or form.

I have a feeling itā€™d be a way to spend our salary cap as we have stacks available and to rort the coaching soft cap as heā€™d really be there as a coach/player next season, in that order

Thatā€™s my guess/take.

But again, that would only be if we donā€™t land whatever deals we are working on that require list spots. Surely thereā€™s something cooking somewhere.

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Ruck coach

Can a a spot on the VFL list if he wants to keep playing.

I would prefer the extra list spot. Even if it opens one up for the SSP.

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Not completely against Goldy going again next year. But weā€™re well enough covered with Draper, Bryan, Wright and Vigo.

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Play VFL someone gets injured elevate to playing list in MSD.

Yuk. Doesnā€™t exactly scream Madden, Salmon, Merrett does it.

Announce 1 year deal

Just retire

If he is on the list next year, he will be given a significant amount of games

Nothing suprises me with this club anymore. Its been laugh after laugh for 20 years.

He will be given another year. Nothing surer

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Easier to dodge the Football Department spend cap on AFL pay, than VFL pay.
Also safe guards the chances of an opposition team taking him (be it rookie or MSD) and leaving us holding our ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  looking for a specialist ruck coach which will have to go under the Football Department spendā€¦

Would be good if we could get a few more older players to sit on the list, play majority VFL and formally become a specialist coach after a year or two.

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Looking forward to round 1 next year

Followers: Goldstein, Merrett, Shiel
Centre: Jones Parish Cox

Weā€™ll show those pesky hawks how itā€™s done but we might miss Kelly as a wing option

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Menzie also an option. Worked well this year.

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Weā€™ll lose by 70 points but as long as we execute our plan, itā€™s a massive tick

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