Ex-#44 Shaun McKernan

IN:JAMAR

Do it Jackets.

I am all in on this

Can we rename the Rookie list as ā€œthe Supplementary list?ā€ Smack aint no rookie.

Will be an amazing addition for the vfl team next year, and a better option than JoeDan/Ambrose/Some complete magic wildcard ruckman Blitz seems to think we can pluck out of thin air and add to our list in case of a tbell or leuey injury.

Time for the rookie list to goā€¦ This is stupid

No, itā€™s time for Essendon to use the rookie list as intended.

Dumb decision to promise him a rookie spot. Unearth a real ruckman!

No, it's time for Essendon to use the rookie list as intended.

I donā€™t mind Allblackā€™s idea. Get rid of the rookie list, for Essendon.

Look at it this way.

We just upgraded pick #19 in the rookie draft all the way up to pick #41 in the national draft (assuming we take 2 more delisted free agents).

So thatā€™s a good dealā€¦ right?

Look at it this way.

We just upgraded pick #19 in the rookie draft all the way up to pick #41 in the national draft (assuming we take 2 more delisted free agents).

So thatā€™s a good dealā€¦ right?

Not if it means we retain Smack on any list.

I can't believe those complaining. This is a brilliant move by EFC.

By placing delisting McKernan it allows three things:

  1. Frees up a permanent spot on the list to recruit a DFA or kid in the ND

  2. Gives us ruck cover if we donā€™t find a ruck in the ND

  3. Stick a rocket up McKernan to work on the ā€œthingsā€ heā€™s been asked to work on until the rookie draft

If we somehow got English at our rd 2 pick and still had picks 29, 41 and possibly another in the ND, then we wouldnā€™t bother with McKernan at all. If we donā€™t get a ruck in the ND, then we will need McKernan as cover which a rookie pick (our very last selection) would make it worthwhile.

Was anyone shattered we took Gach Nyoun in the rookie draft or did they complain about missing out on anyone?

  1. Good if we get a kid, but if we get both Richards and Green, itā€™s horrible.
  2. It doesnā€™t give us ruck cover unless we have a LTI.
  3. He had a rocket when Adelaide dumped him and another when he wasnā€™t getting a game this year. Either he was below 100% fitness all year and deserves another chance, or heā€™s not good enough and his departure should be permanent.

English is a long-shot to get to our 2nd pick, are there any other good ruck options?

Wonder what exactly are the ā€œthingsā€ Smack needs to work on? Dodoro said as much also.

He canā€™t get any taller to compete against bigger rucks. The only part of his game that would see him be more valuable to us is his fwd craft, perhaps contested marking / leading etc.

But if he hasnā€™t got it now will he ever?

Bring in Jamar so he can deck 10 people in the goal square again.

Wonder what exactly are the "things" Smack needs to work on? Dodoro said as much also.

He canā€™t get any taller to compete against bigger rucks. The only part of his game that would see him be more valuable to us is his fwd craft, perhaps contested marking / leading etc.

But if he hasnā€™t got it now will he ever?


The answer to that is no. He is what he is.

With all this ā€˜depthā€™ we are picking up as DFAā€¦ plus the ā€˜depthā€™ we are dropping back to the rookie listā€¦we better be setting our sights on an extraordinary flag next year!!

With all this 'depth' we are picking up as DFA... plus the 'depth' we are dropping back to the rookie list...we better be setting our sights on an extraordinary flag next year!!

Iā€™m wondering how much is due to the age profile of our list

Excellent decision. Bellchambers & Luey are both miles ahead, heck McKernan couldnā€™t break into a team that just had Luey, Iā€™d say the fact heā€™d still be on a rookie list is a good result for him and us. And if he performs next year and we get an injury then heā€™ll get his chance, so far heā€™s done nothing but glimpses.

Both Green and Richards are miles ahead of anyone weā€™ve delisted and people that canā€™t see that have the Essington goggles on. Worsfoldā€™s making players earn their spot, not coddle them for 3-4 years hoping they perform.

I can't believe those complaining. This is a brilliant move by EFC.

By placing delisting McKernan it allows three things:

  1. Frees up a permanent spot on the list to recruit a DFA or kid in the ND

  2. Gives us ruck cover if we donā€™t find a ruck in the ND

  3. Stick a rocket up McKernan to work on the ā€œthingsā€ heā€™s been asked to work on until the rookie draft

If we somehow got English at our rd 2 pick and still had picks 29, 41 and possibly another in the ND, then we wouldnā€™t bother with McKernan at all. If we donā€™t get a ruck in the ND, then we will need McKernan as cover which a rookie pick (our very last selection) would make it worthwhile.

Was anyone shattered we took Gach Nyoun in the rookie draft or did they complain about missing out on anyone?

  1. Good if we get a kid, but if we get both Richards and Green, itā€™s horrible.
  2. It doesnā€™t give us ruck cover unless we have a LTI.
  3. He had a rocket when Adelaide dumped him and another when he wasnā€™t getting a game this year. Either he was below 100% fitness all year and deserves another chance, or heā€™s not good enough and his departure should be permanent.

English is a long-shot to get to our 2nd pick, are there any other good ruck options?

Some good points.

  1. We will get Green and Richards. Not sure on Richards but donā€™t mind Green. Either way, we wanted them both and couldnā€™t wait until the PSD or rookie draft for either of them so rather than giving us one less ND pick, McKernan made way.

  2. Letā€™s hope we donā€™t need ruck cover through an LTI but youā€™re right, thatā€™s what he will be there for. If weā€™re unlucky enough to have both Luenburger and Bellchambers out at the same time with 1-2 week injuries, then pending the opposition, we have Stewart and Daniher.

  3. Some just take a bit longer to mentally click.

English is a long shot, youā€™re spot on but who knows what might happen and how many other rucks there are. If we donā€™t have a spot, we wonā€™t be prepared for a slider or surprise pick.

This is the problem. Remember JoeDan and Carlise v Sandilands?

Makes no sense at all. Smack is only needed as a back up in the case of injury to Luenberger and TBell. So why put him on the rookie list where we can't play him unless there is a long term injury? If we think we need to keep him as a back up, it needs to be on the main list. If we are going to draft a young ruckman, who presumably is not yet ready for AFL (and so we need to keep McKernan), the new young ruckman should go on the rookie list. Chances are whoever we want is going to be available in the rookie draft.

Well, the answer is right there in that sentence.

Not really. TBell and Luey could have concurrent injuries that are less than 12 weeks duration. We couldnā€™t elevate McKernan then.

We could if another player was injured long term. It doesnā€™t have to be TBell or Luey.

Wow. Struth. WTF? Seriously?

WSWS FFS!

I havenā€™t seen much of English, and I donā€™t know what sort of talent is available in the state leagues, but thereā€™s not all that much to get excited about in the ruck department this draft.