#15 - Dyson Sharp

[jamesm]

Richmond Bigfooty are not as happy after the draft as they were beforehand.

[Ants]

@saladin

Whether hindsight proves they were the right selections or not, the strategic read on things last night was spot on. Everything was calculated, including opting to not degrade next year’s first.

It certainly feels like there’s a new sheriff in Essendon recruiting.

How was it different to what we did in 2014 with Langford and Laverde?

[samwoods]

@jamesm

Richmond Bigfooty are not as happy after the draft as they were beforehand.

Its a truly beautiful thing

[FuriousGeorge]

@Ants

@saladin

Whether hindsight proves they were the right selections or not, the strategic read on things last night was spot on. Everything was calculated, including opting to not degrade next year’s first.

It certainly feels like there’s a new sheriff in Essendon recruiting.

How was it different to what we did in 2014 with Langford and Laverde?

Because it wasn’t Blaine Boekhorst in between!

[JJohnson]

I’m pretty sure the Lang/Lav strategy was Forster-Knight. Or Lloyd. Or was it Robert Shaw?

This move is a pure, textbook, classic Rosa manoeuvre. At his absolute best.

[JJohnson]

BTW the Jobe comparison didn’t make much to sense to me but the more I watch the more I see it.

Jobe’s kicking was elite by the end of his career though. If Sharp can get anywhere near Jobe’s kicking…wow.

[ivan]

i can’t quite put my finger on it. i think it’s his waddling running style. but sharp reminds me more of Dane Swan than jobe.

[saladin]

It became #13 but in reality was #9 . And the Crows pick started as #16 . That 7 pick gap was far too large to be confident of getting our next choice , if we’d only dropped 1 or 2 selections it may have been of some more interest. May.

[noobermensch]

I still think we would have been reluctant to trade away Sharp. Reading between the lines in that RFK interview it sounds as though we were really big on Sharp all along.

[saladin]

Lol, you really have hitched your wagon to Adrian.

But I’ll play.

From my vantage point the type, size, characteristics, skill, player type and flexibility of thinking has seemed different since the arrival of Rosa (and maybe Vozzo).

We’ve seen more aggression / agro arrive. We’ve just taken 3 x 6’3” , big bodied , highly driven , self motivated , ready to go kids arrive.

The positional intent and list fit over the last two drafts ( and also the previous one, tbf) looks much better. We seem very clear on what we are getting positionally , rather than trying to guess what a light-weight kid might become in 3 years.

We jumped back in late last year to get Johnson, who looks like a Rolls-Royce quality prospect rather than our too-often scrappy disposal kids.

And we didn’t automatically match Sweid. If you want to throw up historical references to suggest that this is nothing new, then I’ll put forward 2020 , where we automatically matched Eyre and Brand despite having already taken Reid and Cox . There was nothing that forced us to do so. And it 100 percent disrupted our draft plans and list build scenario. Adrian himself told me that , two mornings after the draft. We chucked the plan out the window and hindsight tells us that it was a waste of adherence to a “must take our NGA kids on principal" mantra.

Now of course, hindsight might condemn the decision around Sweid last night. But what we haven’t done is make things trickier next year or 2027. So , no, I don’t think it’s no different to previous years.

[Bully]

@JJohnson

Jobe’s kicking was elite by the end of his career though. If Sharp can get anywhere near Jobe’s kicking…wow.

Let’s not go over the top, it went from putrid to serviceable during his best years, then back to ordinary post saga.

[saladin]

Agreed. It would’ve needed a monstrous offer, and I think we were taking Sharp - having formulated the plan to get him specifically through to #9 - more or less no matter what.

[frosty]

@saladin

Lol, you really have hitched your wagon to Adrian.

But I’ll play.

From my vantage point the type, size, characteristics, skill, player type and flexibility of thinking has seemed different since the arrival of Rosa (and maybe Vozzo).

We’ve seen more aggression / agro arrive. We’ve just taken 3 x 6’3” , big bodied , highly driven , self motivated , ready to go kids arrive.

The positional intent and list fit over the last two drafts ( and also the previous one, tbf) looks much better. We seem very clear on what we are getting positionally , rather than trying to guess what a light-weight kid might become in 3 years.

We jumped back in late last year to get Johnson, who looks like a Rolls-Royce quality prospect rather than our too-often scrappy disposal kids.

And we didn’t automatically match Sweid. If you want to throw up historical references to suggest that this is nothing new, then I’ll put forward 2020 , where we automatically matched Eyre and Brand despite having already taken Reid and Cox . There was nothing that forced us to do so. And it 100 percent disrupted our draft plans and list build scenario. Adrian himself told me that , two mornings after the draft. We chucked the plan out the window and hindsight tells us that it was a waste of adherence to a “must take our NGA kids on principal" mantra.

Now of course, hindsight might condemn the decision around Sweid last night. But what we haven’t done is make things trickier next year or 2027. So , no, I don’t think it’s no different to previous years.

While this is generally true, how much is related to the coaching and management structures at the club b vs the one individual.

Obviously Dodoro was well past his use by date, and Rosa has been a good get, but there’s so much additional”stuff" around any pick, and any lust management decision, that it’s very hard to work out whether any perceived improvements are from Rosa specifically.

Anyway, how this site gets so wound up about Dodoro still does my head in. He’s gone, yet the draft thread continually goes back to whinging about him, even when whatever they were whinging about wasn’t actually Dodoro. (And there’s plenty enough that the site could whinge about without stretching the truth). I think this is where Ants gets wound up, because he feels that the truth is often embellished for a story and repeated over and over as if it’s the complete and only truth.

Was Dodoro garbage? Yes. In lots of areas. Was the whole club garbage. Yes, in lots of areas. Did Dodoro ever do anything good for the club. Yeah, a few things. Is the club better off now that it has Rosa and a new team. Yeah, for sure. Has Rosa made any mistakes. Probably a couple, but that’s OK, everyone makes mistakes.

The black and white stuff just grates, and is repeated over and over when as a club we’ve moved on.

[Crod]

I genuinely believe that we rated Sharp higher but knew the Dees had no interest and would have taken Farrow right behind us, so as others have alluded to, we picked Farrow and let Sharp get through to 9.

Rosa did the similar with Gerryn & Clarke last year (albeit a bit later).

[JJohnson]

You might be right. My recollection was of him at his pomp, and I would have called him our best kick.

I try and pretend he didn’t play in 2017.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Yeah but purely in terms of the gamesmanship? The shithousing? Disco’s 9 iron.

[saladin]

@frosty

and any lust management decision

A constant war that one must wage.

[Bacchusfox]

He looks very tough, and very fit.

[You_Shall_Be_Smoten]

Cold showers

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

I used to have that problem. Now I just think about baseball