I want Francis and Parish, I would even lean towards trying to get pick 3 of GC by using Melkshams pick and pick 5 as I see Francis as a much better footballer then Curnow.
Curnow struggles to read the play something Francis like Heppell is sublime at.
Francis and parish can find the ball with ease, Curnow like Melksham may never find great footy smarts like the other 2.
Id love to get Coughlan into the team, Don’t know if it would be in ND or rookie spot though
Brett Anderson thinks we will pick up Francis if Parish goes to the Dees at 3!
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@BrettAndersonIF @InsideFooty Do you think Francis is almost a lock to go to dons. We have 2 picks.so who would you think we might take
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@T1NKASAURUS @InsideFooty If Parish gets through Dees, lock him in. Then one of Weideman and Curnow.
Would quite like a Francis & Weiderman combination with #4 and #5 if we have both.
New podcast up - road to draft - talking about the draft camp.
Francis apparently good at agility test on past history.
Expects ryan Clarke to step up well in 3km time trial.
Twitter question if essendon end up with 4+5 who will they get
a tall + mid
expects Parish, Francis, weiderman, Curnow to be in the mix there.
Twitter question Scooter - who has a better upside in the future - francis or Parish?
Cal Twomey Thinks Parish is more bankable than Francis at the moment, but Francis could end up best player in the draft…
IF your a bomber go Parish.
go to 26:44 mins in to hear essendon content.
Doesn’t think GCS will get a pick under 25 for Bennell.
Where will Ben McKay go
Will Mitch Brown be drafted?
If he was allowed to stay at Bombers after preseason would have played a lot of AFL footy this year
Would quite like a Francis & Weiderman combination with #4 and #5 if we have both.Would always be concerned about Collingwood trying to lure Weideman if he became a star!!
Will bonner be around at our 2nd pick?
Will bonner be around at our 2nd pick?
Bonner in the second round might be a bit hard
It’s a good year to have a few early second round picks, I reckon. Top-level talent maybe fades a bit by pick 6 or so (excluding the academy blokes), but there’s a lot worth looking at in the next 20 or so, and it’s reasonably even. Bonner is one who’ll be in there, but so are the McKay boys, Partington, Milera, Clarke, Tucker, Oliver, Gresham, Collins, Skinner, Crocker, Clark, some others.
If we end up with 4, 5, 22 & 24 I reckon.s great draft would be:
4 - Parish
5 - Francis
22 - Collins
24 - Partington/Weiderman
The reason I have Weiderman possible being there at 24 is because no one would have thought Lav and Lang would have been there at our picks last year, so stranger things have happened.
Picks #4, #12, #13, #23, #25 would be a good base to try and rebuild around. Go Francis/Parish with #4, Collins or McKay and best available with the two early teens picks, and then another tall and a good small with the two early twenties picks. Hope M. Brown lasts to our 3rd rounder.Sure, #4 and #5 are flashy, but historically they have about a 50/50 chance of (individually) being a bust. But a lot would (obviously) depend on where the recruiting team see the draft talent falling off the cliff.
Is it just me or do others think that the historical data of a particular pick is bs? I read a fair bit of it in the lead up to the NBA draft, and it just had me thinking that surely good recruiting staff know their stuff and therefore logic would suggest that it should be a better pick and player than the ones after.
This is not a shot at you in any way Ants, just that you mentioned the bit in bold.
No, I completely agree. Actually pick #5 has (historically) a better hit rate than 50%. It has a better hit rate than #4 or #6. That stat is from the average of all three, because I would assume the fact that #5 has historically been a touch better than the two picks around it is just a statistical anomaly and has no reason to apply this year.But that said, the idea that even top picks don’t have a high rate of busts is also a bit of a myth. Pick #1 is pretty safe, but on the flip side often doesn’t produce a champion of the game. A lot of people seem to conflate a pick (say #4) with getting you the fourth best player out of a draft, and not the fourth best perceived player at a single time before a lot of development still has to happen.
It’s all a balance isn’t it. Even at 1, you can be looking at a guy who might be a bankable 200 game half back flanker against a guy who might be the best player in the league or may not end up playing 50 games.
Because there’s no list, and all clubs see these risks reward decisions differently, individual pick numbers mean little. I sort of think you can generally group them, maybe 1-3, 4-8, 9-16,17-30,31+
In those groups you’re making different decisions.
Eg 1-3 (and the size of the groups varies per draft), you’ve generally got either mids who have all the tools, or talls who look like they *should * become genuine guns.
The next group you can often be choosing between solid types and could be best players in the draft.
The next group maybe you’re looking at guys with at least one noticeable flaw that will need to be rectified for them to have a career. Or maybe more flaws but also more attributes.
Etc etc.
It's a good year to have a few early second round picks, I reckon. Top-level talent maybe fades a bit by pick 6 or so (excluding the academy blokes), but there's a lot worth looking at in the next 20 or so, and it's reasonably even. Bonner is one who'll be in there, but so are the McKay boys, Partington, Milera, Clarke, Tucker, Oliver, Gresham, Collins, Skinner, Crocker, Clark, some others.
Who’s that top 6 from your reading of it HM? (and understanding the weather wasn’t your friend this year)
(I’m not convinced - in terms of take it to the bank" - by a lot of the projected top end this year on my limited following of it, in many ways I like a few of the 10-20 sorts better)
It's a good year to have a few early second round picks, I reckon. Top-level talent maybe fades a bit by pick 6 or so (excluding the academy blokes), but there's a lot worth looking at in the next 20 or so, and it's reasonably even. Bonner is one who'll be in there, but so are the McKay boys, Partington, Milera, Clarke, Tucker, Oliver, Gresham, Collins, Skinner, Crocker, Clark, some others.Who’s that top 6 from your reading of it HM? (and understanding the weather wasn’t your friend this year)
(I’m not convinced - in terms of take it to the bank" - by a lot of the projected top end this year on my limited following of it, in many ways I like a few of the 10-20 sorts better)
Weitering Parish Schache Francis Curnow as top 5 (curnow I’m going on reputation rather than seeing him play, and fwiw I maybe don’t rate Schache quite as high as some do), with Weiderman Ah Chee Mathieson the next bracket, all of which are based more on what I’m hearing cos I’ve seen very little of any of them.
I feel similar about Schache, but also figure I can’t work out how to rate talls.
Thanks.
LOL when Weitering, Parish and Francis go 1,2,3…
Surely Boekhorst’s older cousin is set to go at #1?
4, 5, 22 & 24, 40,58
4 parish /francis
5 weideman
22 collins/mckay
24 milera/ ryan clarke /partington
40 mitch brown- bid on SOS jnr
58 daniel rioli / blake hardwick
aceman have you heard how peter bampton went this year?
last year was hoping we might rookie him.
Havent heard his name mentioned in draft talk at all.
According to sporting pulse still at norwood but played most of season in the reserves.
Sos jnr will be well gone by then i reckon. He’s not true kpp size but not many 190cm kids are that good with the ball at their bootlaces. Bit of The Langfords about him.
In the very very unlikely event Milera is around at our second pick I’d be laughing all the way to the bank. He does things I’ve only seen Harley Bennell do at u18 level (insert obligatory drug joke here). Would be a truly spectacular pickup that late. Reckon Collins might be a surprise first rounder too. Smells like a Sydney player to me.
Let’s wait and see for trades to finalise but we most likely won’t end up with multiply picks in the 20’s unfortunately. So only one of those players mentioned there from Houli Dooli & Black Kav in the 20’s,
Eg. pick 23 or Melksham Trade is probably traded out to get 5… So 4, 5, one of (23/25/29), 42, 43 & 60 is more likely.
(So more ends up being Carlisle & Melksham get us pick 5 and 43 as a combination.)
Still 4 & 5 is a strong spot that we could build on!
I’d love Francis & Parish combo. I read someone mention a Parish & Mathieson combo which would be tempting. Others like Curnow, AhChee would also be tempting too, not sold on Weideman that early.
4, 5, 22 & 24, 40,584 parish /francis
5 weideman
22 collins/mckay
24 milera/ ryan clarke /partington
40 mitch brown- bid on SOS jnr
58 daniel rioli / blake hardwick
But will say and agree; I do like the idea of Mitch Brown & Daniel Rioli additions in the mix maybe with picks 42, 43 or 60.