A knee to the back of the head looks glorious when taking a mark.
The striking charge was graded as intentional, with severe impact and high contact.
No chance he only gets a couple, minimum 4 based on that.
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Thatâs an old Irish joke: â You didnât need to shoot that duck, the fall wouldâve killed him. â
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Still preparing us for a 4 week rather than a lengthier penalty despite causing a brain injury, which I note, the AFL tried to call âinternal bleedingâ without even specifying the brain.
Imagine if this was Tom (fine me $2000 for a tummy tap) Bellchambers to Alex Rance.
The intentional is utter bulltish. Its not 1980. Idiots, Its extremely reckless but you would have to be actually insane to do something like that intentionally in todayâs game. Nobody would at this level
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Hard for the AFL to contrive a 4wk penalty with the international grading. But itâs very open given itâs going direct to the tribunal.
I think he was doing a Tony Lockett.
If you wanna drop into the hole youâll be paying the price.
It may not have been intentional to hit him in the head but the raised elbow was most definitely intentional to hurt the player. Eyes on the player and raises elbow.
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Surely the players are trained that they cannot raise arms when going to a likely collision. In the discussion above, it was noted it was âextremely recklessâ. Perhaps wanton disregard for the duty of care that players have to have for their opponents is a better way of looking at it. It is not strictly intentional, but the liability for the resulting consequences would be the same.
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You need to know what you are doing and how itâll impact yourself, teammates and opposition players.
âLook before you leap,â Scott urges players
Sarah Black
THERE is âno shameâ in âhaving a quick lookâ before running back with the flight of the ball, North Melbourne coach Brad Scott said in the wake of the heavy collision between GWS star Jeremy Cameron and Brisbane defender Harris Andrews.
Talking broadly on courage in football following the Giants forwardâs high hit on the promising Lions backman, Scott said he had seen first-hand the damage done to former teammate Jonathan Brown.
Cameron has been sent directly to the tribunal for the strike, which has been classified as intentional, severe impact and high contact, while Andrews is recuperating at his parentsâ house from a serious concussion and a small bleed on the brain.
âWe laud players who keep their eye on the ball in the contest, but I think the flaw in that at the moment is we pillory players who have a look,â Scott said on Fox Footy.
"I encourage our players to look before you leap. Look before you go back with the flight, thereâs no problem when the ballâs in the air, having a quick look to see whatâs in front of you before you go.
"Iâll never forget (former Brisbane coach) Leigh Matthews telling Jonathan Brown to stop going back with the flight, because he was concerned he was not only going to kill himself, but kill (fellow forward) Daniel Bradshaw as well.
âThe courage is fantastic, but thereâs no shame in looking before you go if you have time.â
By contrast, St Kilda coach Alan Richardson â appearing alongside Scott on AFL 360 on Monday night â said technique was key, but the team was proud of players who showed enormous courage when attempting to intercept the ball.
âOur technique is to look, but we want blokes to go, we want blokes to be prepared to sacrifice,â Richardson said.
âGavin Brown was a teammate I played with (at Collingwood), he was quite inspirational, Jonathan Brown not dissimilar. Jimmy Webster and (Jarryn) Geary do it for us and itâs something we value.â
Scott backed up Richardsonâs plea for proper technique.
âThe technique part of it is critical. We want to teach kids how to do it,â Scott said.
âI admired Glenn Archer when he went back with the flight of the ball, not only for his courage, but for his technique in how he did it. He was able to protect himself and very rarely got hurt, funnily enough, because he had a great technique.â
Any player attacking the contest needs to use his arm to protect his head and ribs. Ideally the arm needs to be tucked in to the chest but that still leaves the head exposed. There is a natural act of self protection to raise the arm and to protect your head. Cameron went beyond that and was reckless in his disregard for Andrewsâ welfare. He deserves 4+, but it is very unlikely he intentionally hit his opponent in the head which is the act under scrutiny. The AFL needs to fix the categories used to rate contact to players and umpires as it is quite confused.
Also to blame here is the AFL culture which is demanding players go back with the flight with reckless disregard for their own safety. That act is worshiped by media and fans, whereas sensible attempts to protect oneself and ensure your team doesnât go one player down are condemned as selfishness or cowardice and mocked on the field by opposition players.
If you canât get to the contest without leaving yourself wide open to get smashed then you need to prepare for a tackle or ground level contest. And we need to accept it. âHaving a lookâ as discussed on AFL360 last night doesnât address the real issue as to what you do when you see there is significant risk of severe injury.
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Some blokes are insane when they cross the white line.
Cameron has history and if you review the footage, he does not attempt to mark or spoil the ball, does not raise his hands, but puts his elbow up. It is not the way you protect yourself, it is how you hit some-one in the face with an elbow.
Now it may have not been a conscious act like TD, Dippa, Lethal or Dermie would have done, but it is close to the way Ronnie Andrews played and when he maimed some-one it was sub-consciously farking deliberate.
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He couldâve done that reasonably fairly. He had a full head of steam up, he couldâve absolutely poleaxed Andrews body on body and really cunched him. Probably give up the 50, but not much more.
His problem is how he did it: elbow to head.
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Well he is a smoky for the brownlow ( Not using capitals because this medal has been tainted what do you expect. It no longer should be awarded the status it has.) Call it the midfielderâs medal because that is what it has become.
How the actual F can anyone who has watched the footage of Cameron lining a bloke up with a raised elbow in mid air say it was anything other than intentional?
Completely intentional and an absolute dog act.
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Maybe Michael Christenson is cokk eyed.
Iâll play the devilâs advocate.
A lot of the replays miss the slight nudge he received just as he was jumping into the contest.
He probably wouldâve been higher in the contest but the nudge directed him forward more into Andrews than he originally had intended.
which still has nothing to do with the elbow he lined up whit harris andrews.
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The ball was in play, he was crude and very careless,
There is easier ways to hurt players than that, He could have easily have hurt himself doing that