A little crispy one Garry - The footy media thread

[Deckham]

Dr Peter Larkins yesterday stated that men and women have anatomical differences that make women more susceptible to ACLs, further he mentioned that hormonal cycles also involved a change in ligament properties making the knee joint more susceptible to injury. He also indicated that there is a lot of scientific evidence building up on which he based the statements.

So, I think we can say that while he might actually be misogynist, Kennett is not being misogynist in being concerned about the incidence of ACL injury in AFLW.

But, We do have to bear in mind that injuries can occur in “clusters” in space or time and more data is needed over an extended time and other factors need to be ruled out before we can conclude that AFLW needs to be changed.

Unless of course, Larkin is also a data-manipulating misogynist, and anyone agreeing with them is a misogynist, including misogynistic misogynists.

[Deckham]

As some are calling JK out on this view, GW asked his thoughts on being labelled a misogynist. It was a discussion well worth having until JK turned it into a one sided argument because he misread or misheard the question.

It’s bullshit.
It’s akin to the old example of “what do you say about those who may accuse you of being a wife-beater?”
A ■■■■■■■ spineless around-the-corner whimpy question, meant to create sensation and typical of the weak-livered pos wakely licking scum-bag.

[The_Ant]

Larkins view point was actually backed up by Kate Sheehan who has:
a: done a knee
b: is female

She says many things about the difference and went on to say when woman are ovulating their joints become even looser (up to 7-8 times normal) much like when a woman is pregnant.

So i guess men, in this case Kennett and Larkin can be correct despite not being female.

[RockyIV]

Beats me how Larkins qualified as a Doctor.

“Sublux of the shoulder boys”

[chris_64]

Larkins view point was actually backed up by Kate Sheehan who has:
a: done a knee
b: is female

She says many things about the difference and went on to say when woman are ovulating their joints become even looser (up to 7-8 times normal) much like when a woman is pregnant.

So i guess men, in this case Kennett and Larkin can be correct despite not being female.

Ahah, but you can be correct and still be a sexist misogynist. Am I doing it right ?

[Darli]

It’s bullshit.

It’s akin to the old example of “what do you say about those who may accuse you of being a wife-beater?”

A ■■■■■■■ spineless around-the-corner whimpy question, meant to create sensation and typical of the weak-livered pos wakely licking scum-bag.

Nah it’s actually not. Well unless your wife was standing next to you black and blue from a beating. Of course there are people who will accuse Kennett of misogyny for taking the stance he has…the question was valid and it was a golden opportunity to address it rationally…sadly his response was predictable.

[chris_64]

whimpy question meant to create sensation

Whately seems to have met his KPIs on this one. At least on the Blitz, that is.

[Riolio]

Whately seems to have met his KPIs on this one.

Luke Ball likes this.

[Sir_Joe]

crisp

[WindyHillWindSock]

Thank you Darli. Saved me from responding and I agree entirely.

[Crazy_Bomber]

I haven’t heard anything other than what I’ve read, but Whateley saying that feels more like he was baiting Kennett.

I think anyone would be annoyed if someone has been trotted out the old “everyone thinks you’re a gutless c*ck, care to comment?” disguised as a question. It’s basically a direct insult, and anyone would be annoyed if they’re trying to bring up seemingly reasonable points. Whateley is smart enough to know exactly what he was doing in baiting someone. I’m not sure Kennett came there to discuss what people thought of him. Either debate the facts or get someone who will, but it really makes thoughtful and smart debate impossible when you resort to that kind of stuff. It doesn’t help anyone other than hoping SEN gets more hits and air time.

[bomber_girl]

Kennett clearly took it that way but aren’t we past this ‘men are physically superior to women’ argument? Kennett was saying that women should be treated differently because they’re women. I thought what Whateley asked was pretty reasonable.

It’s not an argument, it’s biology. Though it doesn’t mean women can’t play decent quality sport.

[Diggers]

I think you should listen to it before condemning Whateley.

[chris_64]

Interview from From 25.40
The “Question” @35.50

[aboods]

Listening to that only confirms my opinion that it was a completely unnecessary question.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is being deliberately provocative, just like Whateley, for no positive reason.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Beats me how Larkins qualified as a Doctor. He justs loves throwing in these obscure “facts”, about hormones and ligaments. I reckon he is a very selective reader of research, and lots the bits that suits his agenda.

My wife has called him out a few times when he’s guessed (and guessed wrong) about what the physios or docs are testing an injured player for. PCL, ACL, MCL, ACDC, yada yada. Different (suspected) injuries, different tests.

The thing is, professionally he’s actually very well respected in his field. He just loves the media spotlight, and he seems to switch his brain off when he does it.

[chris_64]

Important to check the generally accepted meaning of words, as an old timer, struggling to keep pace with millennials, and some Blitz posters, I found the Urban Dictionary useful

Maybe I was not surprised to see the definition of FLOG, especially as it was exemplified by a well know AFL scribe.

Flog
Someone who is disliked by a person or the public because they lack any credibility or/and tries to be remain relevant within certain circles but comes across as a moron.

Example: That four eyed purple headed warrior of a journalist is the biggest flog associated with the AFL.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flog

[Riolio]

Think Gerard realised he put that question across in the wrong way.

But let’s not kid ourselves when it comes to Gerard Whately and Jeff Kennett, whoever wins, we lose.

[barry_day]

Can’t wait for Whately to interview Scotty and ask him if he’s a mysoginist too.

[xhavok]

they’ll be having a field day with that tweet.