Adam Goodes Documentary

[RedandBlackPartisan]

When Adam said he felt the booing was racial it becomes racial.

No. His feeling doesn’t change someone else’s intent.

But it does if Goodes was of the genuine opinion that it was racist in nature.

[Scorpio]

Great post. Thanks for sharing a very sad story.
Bad enough people treat adults in that way, but kids, kids should be allowed to be kids.

[Scorpio]

When Adam said he felt the booing was racial it becomes racial.

No. His feeling doesn’t change someone else’s intent.

But it does if Goodes was of the genuine opinion that it was racist in nature.

It can’t. If I do something, anything, for a particular reason, your feelings about it, can’t change my intent nor motivation.

[RedandBlackPartisan]

When Adam said he felt the booing was racial it becomes racial.

No. His feeling doesn’t change someone else’s intent.

But it does if Goodes was of the genuine opinion that it was racist in nature.

It can’t. If I do something, anything, for a particular reason, your feelings about it, can’t change my intent nor motivation.

I think the point that people are missing is that even if the intent wasn’t racist, Goodes experienced for himself that it was racist. It’s how HE felt about it.

edit: He didnt understand that 99% was about him being a flog, but he heard it 100% as for him being aboriginal.

[Sameolds2010]

From a personal viewpoint I’m a massive fan of not being a sniping, diving, cheating squib. Combine that with having a seismic distaste of Sydney, hating goodes was just too difficult to ignore.

I dislike him on a cellular level. I don’t care if he’s green.

He’s a ■■■■.

[domaura]

l have no doubt that some of those who booed Goodes, were being racist even though they denied it and claimed the right to boo him for football related reasons and said they had nothing to do with racism. Utter bullshit. Racism is one of the worst plagues that continues to haunt our race, and it has been this way for far too long.

l never booed Goodes, but was disappointed that the chumps fell for his staging for frees at times. As we have seen in the last couple of weeks, there appears to be one rule for Brownlow winners, and one rule everyone else.

That’s worth booing about in itself.

[mrjez]

I feel like indigenous people after a while just hear all noise directed at them as racist. Due to the fact that 98% of it was well before they give a cheapie or stage for a free.

Im not suggesting that you don’t boo a player who does something against the spirit of the game. Im just trying to get you all to understand why Goodes probably has a hard time processing it.

The two most poignant paragraphs I’ve read in the whole thread. Well said.

[The_Ant]

perhaps you don’t realise what your saying is racist. Perhaps you don’t know the history.

So when he says “Hey, to me that feels like it has racially driven” we should listen.
Especially when seeing a) we are not Indigenous b) our reaction was to boo more c) we should be trying our very best to mend the past and make this relationship harmonious.

[HarryJay]

You’re are missing the point in a big way.
Goodes was giving back what he thought he was getting.
He was objecting to antagonism based on race, yet he was giving the same thing back when he did his war dance.
War dances might be celebrated in Maori and indigenous culture, but in European culture they signify an aggressive, belligerent attitude.
Was he interested in reconciliation, or not?

[Sweet16]

uh oh you’re gonna cop it now

[The_Ant]

I get your point but you are giving way too much credit to the crowd that they were just booing.

Of coarse he saw the booing as racial.
from his first memories he was racially taunted.
From his first game of football he was racially taunted. Every single game.

He was driven to point where he had to make a stand and he did.

And how dare we judge him for that.

I’m sorry if an imaginary spear hurt your feelings but in the same breath you can brush aside 30 years of racism aimed at Adam.

And just a history lesson. New Zealand was a European settlement. They just handled the issue a whole lot better than us.

[Go_Team_2.0]

We should pick up Adam Goodes in the mid season draft

[Red_Territory]

It seems only white people are racist

[SMJ]

There are 273 posts in this thread???!!

1. Some people booed him throughout his career because he was a sniper who played for free kicks. This is GOOD BOOING.

2. However the booing of him greatly intensified after he called out that girl in the crowd and did the war dance thing. This is BAD BOOING.

Move on you turkeys, geeesh

[Go_Team_2.0]

Wait… so Michael Long has been walking about booing this whole time?

[Shahid_Afridi]

Thank you so much for sharing that story, benfti. People criticising him for taking the stand he did really should think about the Australia he grew up in, pull thier heads in and show a bit of empathy.

[alex.f.94]

My favourite Goodes moment is still him missing that set shot after the siren to lose the game for his team.

[Scorpio]

perhaps you don’t realise what your saying is racist. Perhaps you don’t know the history.

So when he says “Hey, to me that feels like it has racially driven” we should listen.
Especially when seeing a) we are not Indigenous b) our reaction was to boo more c) we should be trying our very best to mend the past and make this relationship harmonious.

What is it about this statement that is racist?
“If I do something, anything, for a particular reason, your feelings about it, can’t change my intent nor motivation.”

[Darli]

“If I do something, anything, for a particular reason, your feelings about it, can’t change my intent nor motivation.”

True enough, and your point is completely valid. I think, however that if you continue to do said thing after I have told you it makes me feel…belittled, villified, worthless…it then becomes a different story.

[Captain_Jack]

In Maori culture war dances are celebrated and have indeed become part of the New Zealand fibre. All the Indigenous players I have spoken to and heard from thought it was deadly.

l thought the war dance was awesome, a word that l rarely use since it has become so devalued. I wish that the Ozzie rugby team, among others, would adopt it and use it when they next face the Allblacks, as the Haka is designed to intimidate, and no one else seems to have any idea on how to respond to it.

l would like to see Tippa do a war dance after kicking a BIG goal in the Dreamtime game. I would like plenty of other Essendon players to do the same thing, so that the war dance becomes something greater, a celebration of success. In other words l want the war dance to be owned, if it is okay to share it.

Goodes was a player giving back to the crowd a little something, after copping way more coming over the fence at him. l never got to see Goodes play in a game, but wouldn’t have booed him. l saw him snipe, l saw a whole lot of staging for frees, he was good enough not to need to do that. Giving him those frees was the fault of the chumps, whom l have booed roundly over the years.