If you look at the journey of those guys, they were incredibly self driven and sourced training and mentoring from outside the club. They achieved their heights through independent effort rather than the club driving their development.
Not every player can be expected to do that. People are different, some just need access to resources and will then proactively run with what’s available, others need to have some structure and external motivation.
Where we look to have failed players is where they weren’t hyper independent types. Those who had deficiencies that could be addressed but didn’t have the personality to identify those weaknesses and fix them through external options. They relied on the internal development program, which seems to have let them down.
And yet every other club including successful ones change their recruiting staff as to not allow them to get stale. The club has needed fresh eyes and ideas for a long time
Definitely agree, and it shouldn’t be a difficult choice given we most decidedly have not been successful. I was talking more about fans, who tend to have more sympathy for the player they can watch playing than the anonymous development coach who they never see working. And if you side with the players over the coaches, you’re going to side with the people who picked the players over the coaches.
With all the obvious caveats that we’ve been a badly run club with all sorts of problems all across the organisation for years.
No offence to Rosa, but my god what a boring interview. Rubbish questions and straight bat answers. Zero insight really, apart from confirmation that we’ll be taking a MSD pick.
I agree. And he gave nothing away too… That’s fine, I’m happy he kept cards close to his chest. But it wasn’t one of the more expansive or interesting chats.
I happened to meet him about 6 weeks ago, he’s a very pleasant bloke, quite engaging and I thought impressive. He comes with a good reputation so hopefully he’s a winner.
It’s kind of interesting how much it varies from team to team how much they share. All the way from “yeah, we’re looking for a tall forward trade or draft, we’ll probably trade back out of the first round, here’s a name or two we’ll be inviting to train for the SSP” to “The draft? Never heard of it, never heard of any of the players you’re talking about. You can’t prove I even work for a football club. The team colours and logo on this polo top are from an AFL club? That’s news to me.”
Yeah, we didn’t he tell everyone exactly what we are doing, who we are picking, and who we are delisting. I’m sure no one out there would be interested.
Honestly, what do you want him to say?
Jackets has you all fooled. Gettable is funded by property investment money and the boys club at Essendon faked the interview via AI.
Rosa doesn’t exist. Dudoro is still in charge of everything. Why are we faking niche AFL podcast interviews instead of focusing on winning games of football? No wonder we haven’t won a final in 20 years.
I suspect it’s more about getting the “Rosa” brand out there. Soft interview to introduce him to the wider footy world.
Anyway, interesting to hear him speak about moving into the contract side of things over recent weeks after that being solely Dodoro’s domain since his arrival.
Sure. If we ignore all the players that Essendon have developed, then yes it looks like we can’t develop any players.
If we are similar to GC, what does that make of us developing Wright and Saad? Is Durham not a development success? What do you make of players like McKenna and BZT who we developed as late picks?
It has been incredibly obvious that we have had a poor culture, development program and injury management compared to the best clubs in the league. Are we going to argue about any of that? I think that’s pretty much a given.
And yes, some players succeeded in our environment. We weren’t a 0 out of 10 club, but we weren’t great. What I’m trying to say is that we failed to get the most out of SOME players. Not all, some. But over a decade that some adds up.
A lot of our players had a really dark period in their development. Ridley, Langford, McGrath, Stringer, Redman, Cox, Laverde, Caldwell, Parish, Perkins each at times looked like a bust. We’ve to a varied extent turned those careers around, often taking more time than seems necessary. How many players fell into that injury or development darkness and never escaped?
Not all Essendon people are glued to forums etc like us.
It gives some general info and introduces the new face of drafting.
All the recruiters who are on this show are generic in their responses.
You are either stupid or deliberately trying to misread my posts while you conveniently ignore my other responses to your other posts. I’m honestly done arguing with you, which we’ve done a thousand times before anyway and it always ends up in the same place.
It’s also interesting that you go missing from this thread for a couple of years when we’re ■■■■, yet decide to show yourself again now that we’ve won some decent games early in the season.
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