"alcohol fuelled" - what does it mean?

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Former AFL player Shannon Grant pleads guilty to assaulting ex-partner
By Zalika Rizmal
Updated 37 minutes ago

Former North Melbourne player Shannon Grant outside the Moorabbin Magistrates’ Court.
PHOTO: Shannon Grant pleaded guilty to seven charges in the Moorabbin Magistrates’ Court. (AAP: Ellen Smith)
Former AFL star Shannon Grant has been granted bail while he appeals a six-month jail sentence for assaulting his former partner.

The 41-year-old North Melbourne premiership player faced the Moorabbin Magistrates’ Court and pleaded guilty to seven charges, including unlawful assault and recklessly causing injury.

He admitted to assaulting his former partner on several occasions between June and December last year, including stomping on her foot at a Victorian resort in December.

Magistrate Thomas Barrett sentenced Grant to six month in jail but his lawyers filed an urgent appeal against the ruling.

He was granted bail and will reappear in August.

Grant played 301 games for North Melbourne and Sydney between 1995 and 2008.

He was part of the Kangaroos’ 1999 premiership team, winning the Norm Smith Medal for best on ground.

He also met James Hird a couple of times. James Hird is/was the controversial former disgraced controversial key figure in the controversial Essendon Supplements Saga. Essendon and James Hird are allegedly evil. And Shannon Grant had some association with them, alongside the notorious Stepp-Hhen Dank.

Dogs are awesome creatures, on the whole.

But this creature. Ohhhh what a sea nut. More Skipworth types, less cing canute types mentoring our young fellas please. Allegedly.

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Pleads guilty, gets sentenced, then appeals. Is there something missing here?

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I think the judge went against the recommended sentence from the DPP

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Ok, that should have been the article.

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Don’t quote me, I wasn’t paying that much attention to the news. It’s the only thing that would make sense though

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Thought this was a new Lindsey thomas thread.

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Judges are some of the biggest idiots in the state.

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How do they omit the fact that he was part of the coaching setup at Essendon/Bendigo, and then draw some cause and effect conclusions?

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Andrew Lovett style

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Focus on alcohol in Shannon Grant case sparks anger from family violence groups

By Sarah Farnsworth

Updated about an hour ago

Shannon Grant dressed in a suit as he leaves court. Photo: Shannon Grant avoided jail after his original sentence was overturned. (AAP: Daniel Crosling)

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The former partner of AFL premiership player Shannon Grant is still recovering from the violence he subjected her too.

The premiership player and Norm Smith Medal winner admitted in court to assaulting her in jealous rages that turned violent on three separate occasions last year.

Last week, instead of being escorted into custody, Grant walked from court after his original six-month sentence was overturned on appeal.

But it was the judge’s emphasis on his behaviour being a drunken “loss of control” that family violence groups have warned sends a dangerous message.

County Court Judge Susan Cohen said the assaults inflicted by Grant reflected “a loss of control rather than deliberate aggressiveness” and the underlying cause was his excessive drinking.

But chief executive of family violence group Our Watch, Patty Kimberley, said people do not turn into abusers “for the night”.

“Time and time again highly respected research and real-life examples clearly tell us that perpetrators of violence against women don’t take one-too-many sips of alcohol, lose control or mysteriously turn into abusers for the night,” she said.

“While alcohol can and does exacerbate violence, labelling it as a driver is dangerous and not based on evidence.”

The Royal Commission into Family Violence found violence against a partner is underpinned by repeated coercion, control and domination.

The commission found it was attitudes towards women and a tolerance for violence that were crucial factors, and while alcohol was likely to “fuel or exacerbate” violence, it was not a cause.

In Grant’s case, the 41-year-old admitted he had used force repeatedly against his then-girlfriend as he tried to grab her phone to check her messages.

On one occasion she was left so badly bruised she did not leave the house for a fortnight.

A jealous argument on the beach about who she had been contacting was so loud and aggressive the police were called.

A month later, he wrestled her in a hotel bathroom trying to grab her phone and stomped on her with his foot.

She landed so hard against the floor, with him on top of her, she also injured her hip, elbow and foot injuries.

The court heard she is yet to recover from the emotional scars.

Attitudes towards women ‘must change’

Judge Cohen overturned Grant’s original jail term and replaced it with a two-year community corrections order.

While she said alcohol was not an excuse, Judge Cohen said it was Grant’s problem-drinking that “gave rise” to his offending, and stressed he had taken steps to curb the problem by attending regular Alcohol Anonymous meetings.

He has also had anger management counselling.

Domestic Violence Victoria’s chief executive Fiona McCormack said it was concerning when family violence was excused, particularly when they were a role model.

“Judges’ responses to these cases can often be out of line with community expectations,” Ms McCormack said.

“Men who commit domestic violence do not lose their self-control, they are in control enough to only commit violence against their partners or families and behind closed doors.”

It is the latest criticism of authorities in relation to violence against woman in recent months.

Victoria Police were accused of victim blaming for their warnings for people to stay safe after the murder of comedian Eurydice Dixon at Princes Park in Carlton.

“This must change because we know, based on the evidence, that attitudes towards women is one of the primary drivers of violence against women,” Ms McCormack said.

The court declined to comment on the case.

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“Men who commit domestic violence do not lose their self-control, they are in control enough to only commit violence against their partners or families and behind closed doors.”

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I think it’s also worth noting that generally anger management counseling is not seen as appropriate treatment for male perpetrators of violence, men’s behaviour change programs are the gold standard, as anger management counseling generally does not address the root causes of family violence and can reinforce the idea that “she sets me me off”
Ps Grant is a ■■■■

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I urge anyone who actually thinks this to go and sit in a Magistrates Court a day and see if you still retain that view by the end.

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You shouldn’t hit women. If you think you might, then end the relationship.

If you think you have the right to control your partner, you’ve been brought up poorly.

If your partner makes you angry, it’s a ■■■■ relationship and you can always walk away.

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A counter example is J Middleton and his praise for his time-wasting and amnesiac witness.

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LOL

I cannot imagine going through life agreeing with everything your partner does and not having some degree of anger at them. And how boring it would be if all of the Mrs Foxes had agreed with me in everything and never got very upset at some of my attention seeking antics.

Everyone gets angry at some point. It is what you do with your anger that counts.

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The greatest liberation for me was the discovery that no one else can make us feel anything. If my partner wants me to be happy because by me feeling miserable, upsets them. I can’t fake being happy to please them. But; I know people who have tried to do this and think they have fooled someone else by faking it. You only fool yourself. Its an unwinnable game. We either feel something or we don’t. And; understanding that we can’t possible identity a feeling if we haven’t already felt it. Otherwise, we wouldn’t know it and even then it will only be from our own experience. We couldn’t name or label it, even seeing it acted out by someone else. It would be a missed cue. Although we do know what we like and what we don’t like. That was a huge epiphany in my understanding. Feelings weren’t discussed in our household growing up.

Anger is somewhat similar. If we fail to deal with our frustrations when they are small, it grows and becomes, it morphs into anger. Anger is a good warning signal that something is amiss. Boundaries are being trampled on, communication is not productive and/or either party is not being heard or listened to. It is an opportunity to change things and open up our communication channels. Our relationships/friendships are always changing whether we are aware of the changes happening or not. We need to be prepared to be in a state of adaption, and if we can be, our friendships and relationships will be fruitful.

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I find this quote interesting.

I’ve had the unfortunate experience of knowing two different guys, who we discovered down the track had been beating the fark out of their partners. One also belted up his kids, and that scumbag did time.

Thing is… Both of those guys also beat the sh*t out of guys at the pub/club etc. They were violent. They weren’t just ‘Violent against women and children,’ they’d hit anybody. Probably kicked their pets too.

I realise that’s just anicdotal evidence, and a small sample at that, I just personally am of the belief that the core issue to be addressed is just ‘violence’ itself, rather than trying to address it’s different segments.

Also, just on the Grant case… You don’t get any leniency for getting drunk and jumping in your car and hurting somebody. So why would beating your partner while drunk be any different?

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I want to see what an alcohol feulled competitive beast goes like.

Sort of like Ben cousins.

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It goes like, I want what I want because I want it and I want it now. Anything or anyone who gets in the way of that desire, is in for it one way or the other. Instant gratification, its hunger is insatiable.