Australian Policies -- from 2025 Federal election

I am curious, has the AEC ever overturned a count of less than 100 on an auto-recount?
Equally have they ever overturned a count of over 100 if the candidate asks for it?

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Has any other candidate in this election in over 150 HOR seats and each state senate count called for a recount with a margin above 100 votes?
I can’t see that any other candidate has claimed errors by the AEC and asked for a recount where the margin is over 100.

So Zoe either

  1. has legitimate claims of errors and mistakes by the AEC (she might be unlucky that out of 151 HOR seats Goldstein got the AEC group that made errors to the extent Zoe asked for a recount).

Or

  1. she’s in denial and delaying the enviable /sour grapes

Not this election, but Andrew Constance (LIB) requested a recount in Gilmore with a margin of 373 votes in the 2022 Federal Election.

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Apples and oranges. Goldstein is by far the tightest seat, to the best of my knowledge. World of difference asking for a recount when the margin is 250 or whatever, than when the margin is a thousand or more.

I’m not sure. I’m pretty sure I saw a post from psephologist indicating the highest margin which has been flipped in a recount is well under 100, something like 30-40 votes, but I might be misremembering.

Will try find it again.

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Maybe Lawry knows someone who runs a fencing business?

No it’s not. Bradfield currently sits at 8 votes

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No but I know a few chippies

You are the Blitz AGreen

And many Boomers still live on the bones of their arses.

Today’s society needs to stop blaming the boomer generation for all their ills.

Not one of my mates came from ā€œmoneyā€ā€¦all were from working class families…all worked for 40+ years as did their partners in most cases.

They raised families, bought their family homes and paid off their mortgages.

So there was no privilege there…most had paid off their houses before getting any potential inheritances…they got their ā€œwealthā€ from sheer hard work.

So for all of those who continue to blame my generation…suck it up, work hard and maybe you’ll eventually get to where you want to be.

I hope you all do…but for god’s sake, stop blaming all your problems on a generation of people who worked bloody hard.

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It isn’t the boomers fault that ā– ā– ā– ā–  was cheap.

It isn’t even their fault that they’re allowed to buy multiple homes because they already own multiple homes or even have enough equity in one (that seems to be worth about double the value of equivalent income in $ terms).

A system that allows basic human rights to be commodified to the level it has is the problem.

An economic system that relies on ā€œgrowthā€ as its most central and important measure of success is the problem.

Governments that refuse to adjust housing and related tax laws because they’ll lose votes from it is the problem.

Boomers were incredibly lucky to be born when they were, and I don’t really blame them for not wanting to give up what they have, regardless of how much easier it was for them to get it.

I do blame them entirely for Sky News and profile pictures taken from below the level of the chin though.

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I’ve witnessed too many boomers entering aged care residences putting all their money into the RAD, which is inherited by their kids. Otherwise, they could have had a decent disposable income , on top of the per diem costs, to spend on luxuries while in aged care.

Ok, I have misremembered.

The average difference for the recounts included in that report is 22 votes with one case (Bass 1998) of a 64 vote difference.

Which is obviously a very different thing. Not included in that report (but mentioned on the blog) is Fairfax in 2013 (AUP/PUP: Clive Palmer) and McEwen in 2007.

McEwen is a case where ALP won on the initial count, LNP on recount and after court of disputed returns amendment. But margins were well, well below 100.

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Just a generation that’s benefited from successive governments turning the family home into a speculative asset.

And for many when they sell their pre 1985 home, or flog something they invested in, in their super pay no capital gains tax on!

Oh and on the back of free education and China making everything they enjoy along the way for nix.

And it’s on aggregate. Of course there’s hard luck and good luck stories everywhere at every age.

On aggregate there will not be a luckier generation of people in this countries history.

Cry me a farken river.

Do you know what we didn’t do when I was younger?

We didn’t blame our parents or grandparents for our problems.

We didn’t grow up with an expectation that we deserved everything.

We grew up knowing that if we wanted something, we had to go out and earn it.

But keep on blaming us if it helps you get through what must be a miserable existence from the way you carry on.

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Why the Boomer hate on here?

if your existence is so good why does it bother you?

Why does it bother me?

Because I get sick of people complaining about how unfair everything is and then blaming my generation.

I would of thought my posts made that clear.

As for my existence…I’m happy with it…I own my home, I’ve retired and have enough money to get by whilst having a holiday or two every year.

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not engaging with handypoint helps a lot botherment avoidance.

but proportionately, everythings ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  and your generation saw things being somewhat affordable off a single income household to not being affordable off dual income. the complacency on your (collective) part has lead to the general animosity you’re experiencing.

think its quite telling how much labor won by when the boomer cohort was no longer the single largest voting cohort

So there has never been an AEC error discovered in a recount of more than 50 votes is that correct @Chris_1993 ?