Australian Policies -- from 2025 Federal election

Here we go - Joseph Conrad has inspired David Rowe’s latest gem. To appreciate this one fully, make sure you go full screen on it.

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We all remember how that scene ends…

We live in hope.

Will be harder to expose government corruption, nothing to see here.

Gisele Kapterian drops the case with court of disputed returns, Nicolette Boele is the official winner of Bradfield.

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Thanks for wasting taxpayer time and money, you trough-snouting, entitled piece of ■■■■.

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Be ready for a few more dumps around GF time.

I think there was sufficient cause to pursue a case in the court of disputed returns here.

The fact she’s dropped the case (1) should assure people that the AEC are excellent at what they do, and (2) averts further costs from pursuing it (albeit legal costs are not covered by taxpayers).

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What did Sussan do to make certain media run so many articles for Hastie?

Anything to keep Liberals in news. They don’t have any policy to discuss.

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I think 38% all three combined.

They would want to get their preferences sorted out :joy:

Imagine the infighting and instability if all those three knucklehead parties combined.

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You cannot assume that One Nation preferences go to Libs or Nats, especially in Victorian seats where ONP made good gains. In Hawke electorate, ONP Candidate got nearly 12% of vote, but only about 50% preferences went to Libs, 25% to Labor, and 25% to Greens which nearly then all went to Labor.

The big problem that faces Libs in all in-depth polling analysis that I have seen is that even where Labor support falls, it does not go to Libs, and mostly flows back to Labor on preferences. The trend showed in the State by election in Werribee and unless Vic Liberals find a magician or Jacinta does something really bad in the next year, it is hard to see a change of Government. Added to this is that the religious conservatives in Vic Liberals are gaining more control in the Party and they are becoming more rightwing radical in many issues.

In Melbourne outer suburbs that Liberals need to win, and where you would expect economic pressures to favour Liberals, there are growing populations of Indian migrants who are gaining citizenship and voting rights. Polls in Melton show that this is now a substantial voting block, and In our branch alone new Members are signing up every month from Indian backgrounds, especially Sikh. These people are well educated, both male and female, politically aware and influence many others on voting preferences. All joined Labor due to LNP and ONP perceived anti-Indian rhetoric. In many ways, it has revitalised our Branch, and makes us stronger.

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when are they going to stop being news? The irrelevancy is stark. The smallness of mind required to find yourself in that party will, depressingly, lead to a rabble rousing deformation and the likes of Hastie and Deeming will front it. Reap what ye sew, you awful people.

Libs are in a parlous state. Bitter infighting and philosophical differences widening. They aren’t aligned and seemingly scared to / unable to nail down positions on key policy areas. Fighting continues, lack of direction at the top. With no policies and continued navel gazing it appears they won’t regain any lost ground in 2028. No obvious strong leaders from what I can see.

The government are best served by having a strong and competent opposition.

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Maybe, but even that doesn’t help if the Government is incompetent.

What it actually means is that the democracy is not as strong, as of people do not have a viable choice in voting then they will just stop; a bit like you have allegedly done. Good example is USA, as if Democrats do not find another strong candidate then the voting numbers will fall further on all sides, which is probably what Trump wants.

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What is strong? Why is it important?

I do see what @Bacchusfox means.

I come from a family of long time Lib voters but I stopped voting for them years ago and have no real options to vote for so I don’t even waste my time anymore. Happy to just vote informal or wear the fine if I can’t be bothered.

The parents stop voting Libs many years ago too but moved into a strong Nats region and the local Nat is well liked in the region and seems to do a decent enough job there so he has got their vote but they have just sold up and moved to another region and without checking who rules the roost there I’d imagine they both go back to voting informal again.

Many friends are in a similar boat with the demise of the Libs, just easier to vote informal and get on with life

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I guess strong is not a great descriptor. In my experience Government does best when it has an Opposition that questions and debates Government policy and actions, and suggests it own policy or viable changes, and is not afraid to act in a partisan way.

Mostly in our history Governments have lost elections because they did so many farking stupid things or are way out of their depth. Rarely it is because the Opposition is so good that majority just jump to them. Even back in the day when Gough and Hawkie got elected, as refreshing as they both were offering progressive policy, the incumbents were hopeless.

Rudd was perhaps the same, and I reckon when Gough, Keating and Rudd lost, it was not because the LNP were great but because Government dropped the ball. Voters do not always get it correct either.

It is pity in my view that @Aceman and @dmaplestone don’t vote and it is the responsiblity of Political Parties to attract everyone to be involved. And it follows that as we are given the right to vote, that we should use that right.

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I’d love to be able to vote for a party that represents most of my views and I don’t despise. Unfortunately there is one. So I vote animal party and don’t look into them too much as I would probably not vote for them either.

I despise the Libs now and I live in one of the safest Labor seats in the country so it’s a complete waste of time even bothering to vote.

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