Australian Policies -- from 2025 Federal election

Australia will buy nuclear-powered submarines from the United States as planned under the AUKUS defence pact in the wake of a Pentagon review that is backing the vast project, according to a report from Nikkei Asia.

The Pentagon study is said to have endorsed the pact and will be finalised before Prime Minister Anthony Albanese flies to the US to meet US President Donald Trump on October 20.

Albanese declared in London on Friday that he was confident the AUKUS agreement would go ahead because his discussions with the Trump administration had given him this confidence.

But the Pentagon review has fuelled concerns about whether US President Donald Trump supports the key proposal to sell at least three Virginia-class submarines to Australia from the early 2030s.

Another plan under the pact is for the US to share nuclear-propulsion technology so the UK and Australia can work together on a new AUKUS-class submarine to arrive from the early 2040s.

ā€œAUKUS is safe,ā€ one official from a member country told Nikkei Asia.

It added that industrial delays might affect the delivery of the submarines but that no political decision had been made to alter the schedule.

This suggests the pact will proceed with the sale of three to five Virginia-class submarines to Australia from 2032. These vessels will be ā€œsecondhandā€ from the US Navy and will be nuclear-powered but not armed with nuclear weapons.

The defence pact, signed in 2021, commits Australia, the UK and the US to co-operating on a ā€œpillar oneā€ plan to build nuclear-powered submarines and a ā€œpillar twoā€ ambition for co-operation on defence science and technology.

British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer reminded Trump of the importance of AUKUS during his state visit to the UK last week, while King Charles highlighted it in his address to a royal banquet in the president’s honour.

Albanese discussed the pact with Starmer in their talks in London and expressed his confidence in the plan when speaking to reporters afterwards.

ā€œI have always been confident about AUKUS going ahead, and every meeting I’ve had and discussions I’ve had with people in the US administration have always been positive about AUKUS and about the role that it plays,ā€ he said.

ā€œIt is happening. It is progressing. And it is progressing because it’s a good idea, and it’s progressing because it’s in the interests of all three nations, including the United States, the United Kingdom, and of course, Australia.ā€

Albanese spoke with British Defence Secretary John Healey on the sidelines of the UK Labour Party’s annual conference on Sunday. Healey signed an AUKUS treaty with Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Richard Marles during a visit to Australia in July, demonstrating the UK’s commitment to the plan.

The Pentagon review, led by US Under Secretary of War for Policy Elbridge Colby, was announced in June and was initially meant to take 30 days.

The Washington Post reported this month that the US administration had assured Marles that the defence pact would continue. The Nikkei report is specific about the sale of the Virginia-class submarines.

The review was sparked in part by Pentagon concerns that US industry was not building new submarines quickly enough to justify the sale of existing vessels to Australia, raising concerns about a capability gap for the US Navy.

Any delay to the Virginia-class sale, however, opens a capability gap for the Royal Australian Navy while it waits for the delivery of the later AUKUS-class vessels.

Another US concern, raised by Colby, was that Australia would not pledge to deploy the Virginia-class vessels in any future conflict with China.

Albanese and Marles have not made any public commitment about how the submarines would be deployed.

Australia has pledged to contribute $5 billion towards the development of the US shipbuilding industry, something Marles highlighted with the first payment when he met Department of War Secretary Pete Hegseth earlier this year. A second payment was confirmed in July.

Australia has also promised to spend $5 billion on nuclear-propulsion systems in the UK and has made the first of these payments to Rolls-Royce, the company that builds the nuclear power systems for Royal Navy submarines.

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We are girt by sea, so AUKUS makes sense to me (although I am no defence expert). Yes, agreed, it is a lot of risk and money, but once we have the subs, I think it will become our most significant defence purchase… ever.

Australia has drawn closer to many of its Asia-Pacific neighbours in recent years, but 'when push comes to shove, it can, and may need to operate well beyond its own the oceans and local regions. Far beyond drone reach. Ships require lots of backup and cannot hide.

Also, IMO, AUKUS submarines make sense if we, Australia, are focusing defence on the six maritime domains central to its national interests- the north seas (the Timor, Arafura and Coral Seas and the Torres Strait), the Western Pacific, maybe the South China Sea, the South Pacific, the Indian Ocean and the Southern Ocean.

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Declining Himalayan snow melt, increased extraction from rivers and depletion of groundwater, will all combine to cause a catastrophe of absolutely gigantic proportions within 1 or 2 decades. There is only one solution, that is vast development of nuclear driven desalination plants around the Indian coast. Time is running out.

This will effect Australia no doubt, we need to think about what we can do without destroying our own country with vast immigration levels.

We are talking a propensity to emigrate of the order of 500 million people .

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Do you mean ā€œimmigrateā€ ?

I recall ā€˜The Economist’ had already predicted that as the tropics become hotter and areas become unliveable, people will need to immigrate towards cooler climates. It’s happening now.

They predicted the next war will be about mass immigration, probably caused by climate change.

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Immigration to the world’s driest continent!

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Good luck fitting an AUKUS class sub through any of those.

It’ll be fine as long as you don’t have to dive, manoeuvre, or hide.

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What could possib-lie go wrong?

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Why do you hate Antarctica so much?

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The effect within India will be a propensity to emigrate, that is to leave India. They will, as many have already, choose to migrate to Australia, among other countries, and Australia will need to deal with lots of immigrants. Right?

Polar bears.

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Last time I was in India, about 10 years ago, farmers in the Punjab were demonstrating because of ground water rights, I was destined to visit the Punjab on business, however my business associates recommended I not travel to the region.

Most aquifers in India are now at crisis levels. Recharge of aquifers from natural sources is measured in centuries, not decades. At the same time demand for dwindling river water is also at unsustainable levels.

It’s going to be a massive market for food exports or, as India will want it, free food aid.

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Uh oh, got another hater!

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Or we let 500 million people starve, which is probably most likely scenario.

Back in late 1970s or thereabouts when China was reviling after its ā€œ Cultural Revolution ā€œ, the population was reaching 1 billion and Premier Hua and his cronies allegedly had a plan to cut food production and cut the population to under 700 million and then use any steps to keep it there. Hua got ousted and Premier Deng took over, and this plan was shelved. The one child policy was bought in to limit population growth.

World Leaders would allow drastic actions like this if it suits their Agenda. They let thousands die in Gaza, more in Africa and stood by and watched Pol Pot kills a million or so.

FYI, there are no polar bears in Antarctica.

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Australia has ordered up to 48 additional HIMARS rocket launchers, bringing the total contingent up to 90. That means we’ll have more rocket launchers than artillery guns in the army.

I’m not convinced that we’ll order more than a handful of rocket pods per truck, so that’s an impressive force for the first day of a war, but probably runs empty by day 7. It does allow us to fire anti ship and potentially even some form of anti air missile in the future from these units.

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Based at Edinburgh in their shiny new facility

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And how visionary of them to have unrestrained population growth over the last 60+years.

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Psst, that’s the joke, Perce. He was sending up ignorant Americans who think there are polar bears in the Antarctic and penguins in Alaska.

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