Australian Policies -- from December 2023

[Paul_Peos]

@Preliminary_Point2

I don’t see any division in Melbourne.

Yeah, but how would you know? You only live here.

[barnz]

Yeah you don’t have the perspective of living somewhere else and having most of your portfolio in Melbourne.

[wimmera1]

I think it’s fair to own the protestor capital thing. And it’s been that way since…well, obviously there are prior instances, but I remember the World Economic Forum was a bit nasty in ‘99(?), and for what?

I do think it’s reasonable to balance that against Melbourne not being white bread and bland af, though, right?

[Paul_Peos]

@wimmera1

but I remember the World Economic Forum was a bit nasty in ‘99(?), and for what?

The S11 protests? They were pretty rowdy. I was in Uni back then, so knew a lot of people who went.

Hindsight makes the date of those protests rather, I dunno, interesting?

[bigallan]

Wide streets, Hoddle Grid, mostly flat in inner city gives Melbourne the edge over Sydney in organising protests across the city as well as the size of protests.

[CameronClayton]

@Aceman

Coming from the state with the most rednecks and banjo playing hicks in the country that indeed is quite the compliment

I’ve lived in NSW, NT and FNQ , originally from Melbourne. By far they have more RWNJ in Qld than anywhere else.
Just an example with this linked story

Dead whale found near popular holiday spot

On social media, most comments related to having to call the old Fraser Island the new indig name. Changing Ayres Rock to Uluru is no big deal in my eyes but to a certain element up here it’s considered unpatriotic

[wimmera1]

@Drapersmullet

@Preliminary_Point2

I don’t see any division in Melbourne

clearly you’re not reading enough syndicated news articles from 1700km away then

I was pondering this while driving.
Pretty much of all of the media is anti-ALP (State and Federal), but obviously the majority of Melburnians don’t care.

It’s probably reasonable to say that the amount of people watching FTA, reading newspapers, listening to talkback, is much, much less than it was. Everyone’s watching Netflix and listening to podcasts and their own playlists.

But the interstate reach of what those entities would like people to believe are occupying the interest of Melburnians still exists.

[wimmera1]

Yep, that was it.
I was working in a bank on King Street at the time and mentioned to the manager that we might want to prepare for it.
He said, ‘oh, you think there will be business opportunities?’
Nnnnno. No, I did not.

It’s probably a bit churlish of me, but I do wonder if they think they achieved anything.

[wimmera1]

btw…look at all those families out for the Melbourne Grand Final parade, when there’s not even a Melbourne team in it.

Lovely.
Great place.

[Preliminary_Point2]

@wimmera1

I think it’s fair to own the protestor capital thing. And it’s been that way since…well, obviously there are prior instances, but I remember the World Economic Forum was a bit nasty in ‘99(?), and for what?

I mean it has been since the eureka stockade.

[wimmera1]

In before Bacchus regales us with anti-Vietnam protest stories.

[Chris_1993]

Is this where we reminisce about the tradies climbing the Westgate bridge and doing some karaoke?

[Paul_Peos]

@wimmera1

It’s probably a bit churlish of me, but I do wonder if they think they achieved anything

My personal opinion on protests is, if you don’t have a clear achievable goal (what do we want? ) then you are just making noise for the sake of noise.

Protesting the ‘vibe’ is silly and sometimes counterproductive.

[Preliminary_Point2]

Yep sun is shining, a day off and long weekend for to commemorate sport(as opposed to war), what’s not to love. People at Bunnings loading up for some spring projects, other families heading off to the Show. The spring carnival is just around the corner.

[CalDon]

@dmaplestone

The way it comes through in a big way is in terms of local government. In Victoria, local government is preoccupied with virtue signalling, social issues and wasting money on left wing ideology causes.

A couple of inner-city councils may indulge in these matters from time to time but it’s not the case for the vast majority

[bigallan]

It could be the city with the biggest outdoor crowds for events.
In 1860, when Melbourne had a population of 500k ( Gold Rush influenced), 15k farewelled Burke and Wills.
In 1863, 10k followed their funeral processio.

[Alan_Noonan_10]

@wimmera1

It’s a weird question, really.
All the options have their merits and drawbacks.

I think Darwin barely counts as a city, which for some may be a point in its favour.

I think I could live in any of them other than Brisbane, GC, Newcastle, and Cairns (although Port Douglas, yes).

I see you as a Karratha kind of guy.

[wimmera1]

I loved it. Wish I could have stayed longer.

[Bacchusfox]

@dmaplestone

Deeming imo has a right to be disgruntled

She is a very strange person. Met her when she was a Councillor in Melton, to say her views on many things are extreme is an understatement. We were a forum on domestic violence and Ms Deeming was all about women being the cause of most issues. Speaks strongly against the gay community and transgender views are alarming. This lady was a school teacher and her views seemed at odds with any teachers I have ever known.

I was told she had strong religious views, but I never heard any of that. Not a popular Councillor as she never would compromise.

[CyberBomber]

@wimmera1

people who don’t live in Melbourne are far more concerned with the politics of Melbourne than its citizens

What gives you that impression? As an ex-Mel resident in Bne for nearly 20 years, nobody I know gives a toss about it. Seriously.

My Dad (still in Vic), on the other hand, never passes up an opportunity to sink the boots into Qld