right so that’s a little different from you saying “established homes must change from gas to electricty”
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Do you think so? I don’t. Established homes will need to transition under the govt plan.
‘transition’ being the key word
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A proposed plan that is open to discussion. As I understand it, any future mandated rules require legislation. i’m not aware of any draft Bill.
End of life transition. That could be 10-15 years away
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That’s the word I’ve been using throughout in my posts on this subject.
The other challenge will be in the business sector where gas is used to manufacture products we consume. As it is, gas operates many food manufacturer facilities and the challenge with electricity currently is this power source (eg: boilers) doesn’t ’perform’ to the same level and can’t enable these manufacturing units to reach high enough temperatures. The costs of transition for the commercial sector could ultimately feed into consumer price rises which they almost always pass on. That but I don’t think has been worked through sufficiently yet.
There’s also the option to face the question by stating that you should both agree to disagree.
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You’re all talking like wealthy property owners.
In the block of units where I rent, the structures can’t even keep the rain out.
Landlords won’t spend ANY money on modernising energy systems.
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Very likely and I suspect in a lot of people’s cases longer
Nope, dmopes, who is a multi property owner if I’m not wrong, is going into bat for poor Victorians again by asserting that the govt is forcing households to change over, which is a vote killer and bad policy, but leaving out the bits as usual. Some poster up thread has 20k worth of gas appliances, he’s been terrified by this news, but thankfully even Sky News has had an attack of the veracities and reported that in fact it’s only at ‘end of life’ of the appliance. At which time they’ll also be able to access rebates and zero or low interest transition loans. My guess, that 20k worth of gas appliances will still be drinking up the dinosaur juice in 20 years in that household.
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Depends, if you need to replace your property’s HWS because it’s cooked, and it’s literally cheaper to do it with electric than gas (due to government rebates), you’d probably just go with whatever costs you less because you don’t actually care and your property is just an investment
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you mean conservatives that want to ride rougshot over states and private companies to nationaiise the energy grid at tax payer expense ?
that sounds more radical than anything the greens could even dream of
It is a major issue for many businesses. As you said many food industry manufacturers process is all fuelled by gas, and the cost of refit, if the technology is available is massive. That is why the Government Policy has been directed at domestic in order to protect dwindling gas supplies for those who have no alternative.
However we were involved in the building of a new factory in Poland for making chocolate products, and as you know chocolate has to be kept at temperature for many reasons, and typically pipes were water heated. This new factory built from scratch with massive funding from the EU had all pipework and vessels electrically heated and was state of the art when finished in 2022.
I cannot imagine these type of food companies in Australia having the ability to invest this much without massive Government funding.
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So the policy is end of life transition. Am i missing something? It’s not being mandated immediately?
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you’re correct.
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Ok. I get the cost now for many would make it impossible (I’m building a new fully electric house).
So whats the issue as we know we have to transition away from fossil fuels.
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No, your gas is being turned off tomorrow.
And it will cost someone the election.
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A plumber.
To quote Mark Watney - Luckily, in the history of humanity, nothing bad has ever happened from lighting hydrogen on fire. 
On a serious note, it will be interesting to see where hydrogen fuel technology ends up. I suspect it will be a longer term solution for ICE vehicles.
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