Australian Policies -- from October 2024

What about paying for the bloke who spends a day or two doing the work to install it? Isn’t that extra? And which low or middle income people have a lazy $5k to spend easily?

I reckon this will be a vote killer.

People don’t read detail. Many people are illiterate, can’t read and don’t have capacity to understand the nuances and +’s / -ā€˜s. They see how much it costs and the mucking around trying to install it.

No bits left out in the definition that is accepted. It is not a legal document and is not legally binding.
Facts matter

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Is Victoria really forcing people to change?

It’s totally not necessary.

Just new stuff built with it

People will make electrical choices when they can during Renos.

Especially if that idiot Dutton doesn’t give us expensive power for the next two decades and the other mob pushes forward to storing all the power being generated today

No, more bs from the self described Conservative Dumby. The proposal is once your gas appliances reach end of life you can’t replace them with the same. Here’s the roadmap. Maybe transition will be a bit difficult. Having ancient infrastructure and being reliant on dwindling, ruinous fossil fuels probably worse for your kids and grandkids though. Duh.

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Lawry determined not to turn Oz Pol into another ME thread, so determined.

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Id have thought expensive gas prices would do the job for them.(government forcing choice isn’t really required).

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No I’m determined to ensure somebody doesn’t get away with nonsense. Facts matter

My understanding is for established homes they must change from gas to electricity.… I don’t think I’ve got it wrong…

Do they?

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According to some they don’t

Sooner the better I guess. And removing piped to household gas is probably a good idea too. As soon as I can I’m going to electric hot water from the existing bottled gas, having done so for the oven a while back, and opening it all up for eventual solar and battery. It’s just common sense - unless you’re being party political about it.

Its a good thing but some can’t afford to do what you’ve done

Apply the same to the nuclear argument and walk your mate dmapes along with you.

and where are you getting your information from big man?

Did I say they could? And all I’ve done is replace my oven. As I posted above, when your gas appliance reaches end of life you simply can’t replace it with another gas one.

Here, from your own outlet

https://www.skynews.com.au/business/energy/allan-government-reveals-when-households-in-victoria-would-need-to-replace-gas-hot-water-heating-appliances-with-electric-models/news-story/7ed5a1916eeb4fe560b37c7a3c83e709

Hot water is hot water and hot air is hot air.

I’m wondering why you would choose gas if electric gear is cheaper.

As per our resident sparky @saladin it’s the wiring, infrastructure.

And that extends to the EV zealots too.

You know what would be smart policy?

Instead of nuclear plants.

Batteries and upgrading ā€œpoles n wiresā€ - ie transmission.

More of an NBN rollout where just like all Aussies need fibre, all Aussies need higher capacity power.

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But debt! All the debt!!!

Preferred option forcing established homes to replace gas with electric units at end of life. Announced 3 days ago as part of roadmap consultation step…

The Greens in SA tried to get a similar proposal to Victoria regarding gas but it never passed and instead state Labor have been trialling a blend of natural gas and hydrogen across a few suburbs and they seem quite happy with it so far.
I think eventually though they will probably can gas but that’s a few years off still