Australian Policies -- from October 2024

Some can transition to residence visas, such as in the health sector.
There are also scholarships for some in the health sector or under special aid programs ( as for the Pacific Islands, Timor Leste, Indonesia. )

Reckon you need to check the facts. Student rental account for about 6% of rental market and of that about 40% live in student dedicated accommodation.

There are over 40,000 rental vacancies and the issue is the rents being charged are high.

That said, property investors struggle in many places to make a return on rental properties unless that are debt free.

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It’s pretty simple. Overseas student numbers will decrease if thre is not enough suitable accommodation for students. You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

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They rent an apartment instead of taking student accomodation.

If the government is charging 200k for a university degree, why don’t they include board in the fees?

If they did that for the majority of the 800k instead of the minority of the 800k foreign students in the country there wouldn’t be a crisis in the private rental market would there?

The dirty secret is the government doesn’t build student accomodation anymore.

Here’s what I posted above.

This firm reckons in two universities along theres 30k in unmet need.

https://www.cbre.com.au/insights/reports/australian-student-accommodation-2024-edition

Providing for them would take 30k people OUT of the inner west market in Sydney and another 20k OUT of the private rental market in the northern suburbs of Melbourne.

Key Points:

The penetration of student accommodation in Australia is ~6% or one bed per 15 higher education students. While some students live at home, those that opt for student accommodation, typically prefer to live within walking distance or short-commute of Universities. Our micro-analysis of catchments suggests:

  • there is an unmet demand 25,000-30,000 PBSA beds in Central/Inner-West Sydney to support students at University of Sydney/UTS
  • there is an unmet demand 15,000-20,000 PBSA beds in Melbourne CBD/Inner-North to support students at University of Melbourne/RMIT.*

Now how many international students have the option of living at home?

Foreign Students have not caused your ā€œrental crisisā€

You get fixated on an allegation and then rant on as if it is fact. People are homeless because they can afford to rent or have mental health issues that get in the way, or both. There are rental vacancies of some 8000 properties in Melb, and if you the money are available. It is a wealth issue.

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gotta love sky news . when the liberals were in government they lauded the aukus deal as a triumph , at the same time they dared Labor not to endorse this .
now Labor is in, they are running a documentary called Australias submarine gamble . :joy:

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Not just Sky. Coorey in the AFR cites Dutton’s loud condemnation of Russia , noting that Albanese was circumspect.
Coorey failed to mention the additional sanctions against 70 Russian individuals and 79 entities, which were publicised in the Ukraine media and welcomed by the Ukraine Ambassador to Australia.

@Lawry

Another Poll, Bill. This time Roy Morgan has it for Albo

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some of those properties are priced out of rental market, so nobody rents them, but available for rent so can claim all expenses.

Albaneses answer for housing/student accomodation was that Dutton rejected their bill to decrease student visas.

Liberals should have given labor a win.
Dutton said the caps that Clare had set were still too generous thats why they didn’t support it.

Labor bill benefitted the bigger universities (only 2% reduction) but not more vocational ones.

People have been doing that for years with their holidays home. It is tax evasion and is illegal, can’t stop some being crooks.

saw a liberal and Labor going at it on sky today , when pressed about which government department Public servants will be sacked and in which areas, the liberal guy had a very annoying arrogant smirk.
this is what Campbell Newman did and why he only lasted a term .
liberals talk about public servants like they are all evil bludgers . these are people with families. they are also taxpayers . something the liberals will certainly need plenty of to pay for their near 700 billion of commitments so far and the campaign hasn’t even started yet.
they will find a way to weasle out of the bulk billing money. they will aggressively cut NDIS, they will slash indigenous budgets ,they will gut Tafe, they will allow super to be raided , they will raid the future fund to pay for nuclear . it would be a distaster

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Public servants are the new dole bluggers.

There’s a very good reason LNP are going after them, and it’s to keep their donors happy…. And so they can privatise Government departments.

The stupidity is, there will be voters complaining about public servants who have family and friends working in public service…… and they don’t even realise it. Simply because public servants are stereotyped as paper pushers.

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Rents are way too high.

The quickest way to magic up lower rents (and they go up and down) is to decrease demand and increase supply.

By far the largest most flexible cohort of rental demand are students.

In the last 20 years international students have grown disproportionately to the size of the rest of the population.

So yeah.

So dealing with their needs IMHO is absolutely the quickest win to solving the housing crisis in Australia.

And there is a housing crisis in this country.

What the ALP has done on the matter is absolute window dressing as is the LNP.

It’s fairly obvious for example building a dorm for a 1000 students is quicker and actually within the governments control over pretending to meddle in the private property market.

And they probably need to build dozens more.

And that needs to be balanced with managing visas and impact to the economy.

If international students are worth close to 50bn dollars to the economy slashing their numbers has other impacts. The cost too that export is higher rent. They will have pushed rents higher for years.

And now the price of renting is acute.

I thought you paid no attention to polls and you conducted your own.

Roy Morgan uses preferences from the 2022 election but my understanding is the Freshwater poll released yesterday which had LNP 52-48 uses current voter preferences as surveyed.

Which is more accurate ? 2022 preferences or current? It can make a big difference because primary votes of the major parties are very low.

Time will tell; but I haven’t deviated from my view it’ll be a Labor minority government maybe 70 seats, then the Teals/Greens guarantee them supply.

SRL on the nose.


I can recall not so long ago when the liberals were in power how one of the main gripes with the ndis was how long it took to get assessments of applications. who do they think does this ? robots?

Australia would be against a strong global trend against centre and centre of left political parties if that were to occur.

I don’t think the LNP will suffer any swings against them and it’s highly likely Labor will lose a swag of seats.

I’d find it hard to see Teals and the Greens pick up more seats in the current environment. They will likely lose some. There isn’t the splintering anti LNP sentiment of the conservative vote this time around. Least not what I can pick up.

If I were a betting man the favourite would be an LNP minority and if I wanted to take a roughie a LNP majority is the outcome I’d put a bet on.

Campbell Newman sacked 14000 public servants and it was chaos. they never learn . at the moment in Queensland the new Lnp government has frozen all new hospital builds in their tracks wheil evaluating these projects many of which have stared . they will be looking for ways to find problems and ridicule the former government at the expense of these projects .
they are very bad winners .
meanwhile adult crime adult time isn’t really having much detergent effect on crime as expected in my opinion

I’m not sure cutting the public service is made out as popular as people think here.

If there was a storyline of excess government debt perhaps. But the government has a story of cutting government debt by 200bn? since being in office.

The LNPs biggest vote winner is a law and order election.(imho)

Which I hate because it’s a ā– ā– ā– ā–  way to campaign. Like the children over board election. I really hate tuning into the news when these reports become political point scoring.

Law and order shouldn’t be politicised like it is - but anyhow.