From her pov there are probably a lot of things more disgraceful than behaving in an uncouth manner toward an unelected foreigner representing the nation that instigated the genocide of her people. Charlie is old and probably compassionate enough to take it on board. But some here would run her out of town or jail her. Surely not just because she yelled at the King? Are we that uptight here? Some other reasons too I reckon.
Where do you draw the line. And who draws it? The electorate will consider her conduct and other representations at election time.
The King is a ceremonial position these days, with almost zero decision making power.
There is nothing to be acheived by screaming at the Monarch other than being a symbolic gesture.
Charles has done more for supporting under privileged people from multicultural backgrounds and speaking out against Racism than any of his predecessors.
If someone had verbally and aggressively attacked the Queen in such a way, theyād have been arrested for being a security risk.
If we are moving forward as a country, there are plenty of other people who deserve to cop such a verbally lashingā¦ā¦ like Dutton, Howard, or any RWNJ from Sky news. These people influence policyā¦ā¦ not the King.
Jenny Hocking managed to obtain a letter from then Prince Charles to the then GG Kerr, supporting his action in dismissing the Whitlam Government.
When our Head of State is physically present in Australia, does he have the authority to dismiss the Government of the day?
I agree, and she obviously sees this as important. Itās certainly dominated the cycle, but whether thatās in indigenous Australiaās interests or hers alone is a fair question. Thatās not mine to answer, Iām just interested in the venom here given there are far worse individuals who actually wield power over our lives in parliament who donāt receive nearly the same.
I think it is probably protest fatigue.
Name names who are the worse individuals in parliament?
On QandA, Murray Watt said that Pauline Hanson and Lidia Thorpe are the most disruptive in the Senate, hurling insults at each other. Hanson has pulled stunts in sitting sessions of the Senate.
However, I do recall that Thorpe, speaking out of order in the Senate, managed to secure action to prevent Senator Vanās harassment of her. Her action, speaking under Parliamentary Privilege, prompted a statement from then Lib Senator Stoker that she had also been harassed.
Van was expelled from the Parliamentary Liberal Party and later resigned as a Lib .
He continues as a Senator, with a record of harassment against three female Senators ( he had previously apologised for his interventions when Senator Lambie was speaking). He has also been accused of inappropriate behaviour when on an ADF exercise , as well as misuse of funds.
The faux outrage on here at present cracks me up.
How dare Lydia Thorpe, a woman of Aboriginal descent, protest about the presence of the British Monarchy in Australia.
The same monarchy that presides over a country that makes laws to ban the return of culturally significant artifacts (many of which are stored in the basement of the British Museum).
Can any one of you outraged individual explain how her protest impacted you in even the slightest way?
And then, can any of you justify the British Government continuing to hold on to the Aboriginal artifacts even after Aboriginal groups have called for their return?
Faux outrage? I think the discussions on BB have been as balance as anywhere to be honest!
Lydia Thorpe is just another two faced politician. Sheās nothing more than an entitled, self righteous hypocrite earning a 200k salary via the very Westminster government model she is apparently fighting against.
What I donāt like is the fact her words and actions are seen to be representative of an entire indigenous population which is incorrect. Many elders and indigenous people have upsettingly and openly stating āshe does not speak for me, my family and many first nation peopleā.
For this reason alone her actions IMO are divisive and do not serve her people well.
I donāt think she is being seen as representative of an entire indigenous population. She doesnāt claim to be supported by all indigenous communities.
Sheās not the only indigenous representative in Federal Parliament. For the NT McCarthy and Price hold different positions, they represent their respective Parties, as does Linda Burney in the Reps and Dorinda Cox, the Greens Senator from WA.
Price has been outspoken on Alice Springs issues. She claims her views should have more currency because of her familyās direct experience
Thorpe is an Independent, who distanced herself from the Greens in opposing a Yes Vote in the Referendum. Thorpe is claiming she should be listened to on the basis of her experience, that of her mother and her own community.
Sheās an absolute ā ā ā ā , and a former deputy leader of the Greens.
Iām as anti-Royal as they come, but thereās a way to do things.
Sheās not just anti-Royal.
Sheās anti-The Voice.
She has subjected an elder to a worse tirade than Bonnie Charlie may have overheard.
Sheās a garbage human being.
And that lack of judgement, putting that idiot in a senate seat for eight years, is why the Greens will not get my first preference for the first time in a long time, and for a long time.
What you are saying is absolutely right. BUT you are thinking too deep. I have read many of your posts and you are clearly a very intelligent manā¦the problem is many of the people out there lack this common sense and simply see an indigenous woman making a fool of herselfā¦behaviour representative of aboriginal people when its not the case.
We are a simple society and takes very little for us to turn.
Sheās been banned for life from a strip club.
The thing most people donāt give any thought to is that we could all be easily speaking Dutch, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Japanese, Indonesian or Chinese.
When I speak to my Indonesian friends they mention atrocities committed by the Dutch. Unfortunately, history is littered with thousands of similar occurrences where occupiers have arrived and colonised.
The 15th, 16th and 17th centuries were a vastly different world in which we live today. You would say it wouldnāt happen today however there still some, like Putin, think it is still OK
What does a treaty achieve? Even now there is debate in NZ about the treaty of Waitangi
There is no answer to appease any or all, but if it hadnāt been the British it would have been someone else.
Not to mention dated a criminal bikie and openly hates trans people! Class act.
If she were a man she would be public enemy number one, regardless of race.
And deservedly so.
Absolutely disgraceful human.
Oddly enough, her view of Charles as not her King would be shared by many non-indigenous of a Republican bent.
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I mean ⦠if Lydia Thorpe had kept her powder dry for this one moment and then showed us all, Gillard mysoginy speech style, her contempt for the monarchy, thenā¦. I might have listened.
But frankly she just goes off like a pork chop 24/7 and adds nothing to the parliament.
Edit: what everyone else said
Issue with ditching the King, is we would end up with a President.
And it would probably be Waleed Ally vs Hamish Blake