I think you will find North Queenslanders want jobs.
I think you will find the majority of people looking for a raise aren’t reliant on penalty rates.
I think you will find that middle aged mortgage holders are stareing at negative equity.
Labor’s fault? No. But Labor didnt offer them any solutions.
Just climate change, hospitals and schools.
Labor doesnt need to campaign on schools and hospitals. Everyone knows they are going to spend on them. Labor always do.
Re-write history all you like.
Most of your stuff about Shorten is just not true. And it was not the right-wingers in Caucus who delivered him the Leadership, it was the SL members mostly from Victoria who could never support Albo because they could not work for him.
Labor ran a poor campaign seat by seat. In Ballarat and Bendigo they ran great campaigns with great hard working local Members and lots of people on the ground doing the hard yards. In Ballarat, we made over 30,000 phone calls, door-knocked nearly 12000 homes, were at every railway station morning and night for three weeks before the election and every community event. Al workers were fully briefed on policy and it was the best campaign I have seen. Bill did not visit us at all, which was part of the campaign plan.
Many other seats were not resourced and had average candidates.
The effect of Palmer ads was huge. Labor will learn and re-group under a new Leader. I don’t give a Fark who it is.
I do not think Labor was arrogant or a bully as someone suggested, and Labor lost this election because their policy agenda was too much change for most of the morons who vote. After some footy games you can blame the umpire; after an election the loser has to shoulder the blame.
I think you’ll find they still want them in 3 years time
I must say that you and your leftie mates warm my heart. You lost the unloseable election yet when presented with obvious facts you go the left wing aggressive rant. Do you have any idea why the polls were wrong? Read back over the last few words. Doubt you will get it though. A “good” distraction for the facts in my post though. You need the greens and they are toxic.
Maybe go with a 100% renewable target next election? Please do? 
ciao
TEH LEFT
Drink.
Do you?
Yep.
Spot on, there will be 1500 at best with Adani.
Would have got more opening 30 maccas
How many people work on the reef?
Less and less every year.
D Hinch seems to have lost his senate seat. Not sure why he was up for election. Thought senators served a 6x year term and he was only elected last time around.? Anyway, he was surprisingly reasonable. Thought he would have got up again based on performance. But performance doesn’t seem to matter anymore so not surprise that he got arsed.
The last election was a double dissolution so all senators. Half got 6 years the other half 3.
The new rules on voting above the line killed the micro parties.
I think Labor ignored the fact that nobody likes Shorten. It’s been obvious for years and they stuck with him anyway. Unbelievable they lost this one.
Double dissolution last time?
Does that mean all senate seats were up for grabs, and therefore the top 6 in each state keep their jobs and the bottom 6 stand for re-election.
Good. Farking hate that prick.
A Green said a few interesting things about the polling results earlier today. Said that companies don’t make money out of election polling and use it as a ‘loss-leader’ to gain publicity. In saying that, he also said that as landlines are a diminishing commodity, only calling landlines gives a skewed result. Plus, he said he knew of lots of people who received multiple calls at home that started to give stupid answers after the second or third call because they couldn’t be farked with it anymore. Polling as it is currently undertaken is unreliable and needs an overhaul.
Yup, Just my opinion(every bum has one!) of the man catching him when hes not campaigning or dealing with the public. Didnt strike me as particularly remarkable.
Abbott for example, totally bonkers. But he is remarkable.
Same with Malcolm.
Scott is the sort of guy you would walk past and not notice if he wasnt in politics. He has a reasonable imposing physical presence I suppose. Doesnt really use it.
Changed a lot on the campaign trail from a far.
Be interesting to see what he is like now he has legitimised himself with an election win.
I had reservations when he was first elected but he was pretty balanced and fair. Not sure who he lost to but if it went to a major party, that’s a poor outcome.
Labour lost because they didn’t pay heed to Keating’s old quote - something like ’ in the race of life always back self interest - at least you know it’s trying.
Too many aspire to be in the 4 % that get franking credit refunds although not so many will get there. Too many think they will negatively gear even if they won’t get there. Broader benefits for the community aren’t so immediate to thei aspirations. When Hawkey got the wages accord at least Kelty could see the benefits to those members of spending on health/education etc.
Here it was taking away some benefits from people who don’t need them and should never have really got them, for wider benefit but less tangible to any one (doubtful) voter.
That is sad. Everyone I know & respect votes for broader community benefit over personal self-interest, but maybe that’s unusual.