Australian Politics, Mark III

It is a very interesting case for me, as they same “rules” applied when I was Mayor. I had discretionary funding to buy things and then use them as I liked, with virtually no accountability. It is a very easy system to abuse. My council actually changed the system to make use of all such funds a public motion of Council.

I am not defending this bloke by the way, I met Antoniolli at a Local Government meeting in Canberra and he was a bully and an arrogant ■■■■■■, surrounded by a Team of bum-lickers.

What you say is the popular version of the election loss, but it is not the truth. Aside from the influence of the right-wing media and the advertising from Palmer et al.; the major reason Labor lost was because it ran a very lazy campaign. If you look at it on a seat by seat basis, Labor made gains in seats where strong, positive and relentless campaigns were run.

We lost 11% in a safe seat like Gorton in Melbourne’s west, because the local member was just plain lazy and his campaign was non-existent. Same can be said for most electorates in Sydney’s West, where they just expected Labor to regain ground and didn’t work hard enough.

No doubt that Bill was not popular with some, but all the surveys undertaken since the loss, show that it is not a substantial issue.

That’s cool.
Now, if he’d done something serious like stolen a tv…

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Did not help in Lindsay, when NSW Labor insiders crucified the sitting member Husar. And not a peep from Albo.

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Not a peep from any Labor MP.

Though it might tell you something about the former Sitting Member

IiRC Shorten did speak up for her.
Some justice though, Alice Workman shunned for running a story concocted by the son of a NSW power broker. The son was forced on Husar in her office. Says a lot about NSW Labor.

yep NSW Labor Right are not very nice people at all. Nothing much has changed in the last 40 years.

Vic Labor is a lot better, but the SL is tearing itself apart at present, all over the place. Massive power fight between the Left in Parliament and those in Unions, and us poor mugs are left in the middle.

What is SL?

Socialist Left faction I think?

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But you’re not “having to argue this”: you’ve chosen to. Japan’s relations with Korea, China, Manchuria, Mongolia and Russia had nothing whatsoever to do with the American embargo on trade with Japan which provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor, any more than China’s current mistreatment of the Uyghurs has anything to do with Trump’s imposition of trade sanctions on China today.

You accuse me of “painting the 1941 Japanese as poor victims of mean and arrogant US trade policy” which you see as “extraordinary historical revisionism.”

Of course I did nothing of the kind: that coloured language is yours, not mine. The Seppoes tried to control Japan by placing trade embargoes against her. When they extended their sanctions so far as to attempt to deprive Japan of the oil she needed for her heavy industry, the Japanese exploded. The Seppoes, if they’d been interested in Japan’s North-East Asian campaigns should have been prepared for the Japanese reaction, but in fact they had no idea of what was coming; the bombing of Pearl Harbor was completely unexpected. Indeed, their own inability to understand the mindset of their enemy was what saved them from an even bigger disaster. If their navy had been where it should have been — out at sea steaming towards the Japanese, they would have lost all their shkps, sunk to the bottom of the ocean. As it was they were able to repair most of the ships that were tied up in dock.

Indeed, your emotional post shows that you yourself are no stranger to “extraordinary historical revisionism.” Many of your claims are either misleading or historically inaccurate, while the manner of their presentation is reminiscent of our current Prime Minister’s marketing-derived style.

Take Korea, for example: Korea had already been invaded by the Chinese and also by the Russians before Japan took it over. The poor blooðy Koreans had to suffer one callous colonial master after another, Japan being just the last of them. The Seppoes saw no threat to their interests there, however, so they kept out of it.

Manchuria had been invaded (and raped and pillaged) by the Han Chinese well before Japan set about “liberating” it in the 1930s. Yes, the actions of the Japanese in Manchuria were pretty disgusting — you’ll find a stomach-churning account of one incident in Murakami’s Nejimakitori Kuronikuru (The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle), — but this had nothing to do with the USA’s attempt to destroy Japan by depriving her of oil supplies.

The Seppoes didn’t care about Japan’s bloodthirsty campaigns in North-East Asia, any more than they cared about the equally bloodthirsty campaigns waged by the Han Chinese and the Russians against the Japanese and also against the vassal states, Korea, Manchuria and Mongolia (without even getting into the battles between the old imperial Chinese and Mao’s Communist Chinese). Millions were slaughtered, and not just by the Japanese, but the Seppoes didn’t care about Asian lives.

All they cared about then and all they care about today is Business, and their control over it. They made the mistake back then of trying to enforce trade sactions against the Japanese; and today they are repeating the same errors vis-à-vis the Chinese.

And Iran is their nominated next target, God help us…

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Which is to buy or lease as much of Australia as they can. Remember they have a lease on Darwin Harbour. Who was the whanker who signed off on that? None other than our esteemed Prime Minister.

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This is going as well as could be expected.

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A few years back I was involved in World Bank trade workshop in southern China. World Bank decided it should have an Australian, a South Korean and a Japanese in the program. I was the only one not carrying historical baggage. The Korean ( quite young and otherwise very professional, but uneasy about mixing with the Chinese) would not speak to the Japanese, the Chinese were muttering something about the rape of Nanking, got the Japanese horribly drunk and made a fool of him.
May explain the tensions in the current Japan- Korea trade dispute and suggestions that Japan would subvert any efforts to Korean reunification.

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The Yanks and the Chinese are the main players in stopping one-Korea. I travel to South Korea often and most Koreans want it to happen, and their Government seems to want it. I am not sure that it ever will; but I said that same about Germany and never thought Marcos would get rolled by the people in the Philippines.

Everything changes eventually.

The young South Koreans I have worked with all said they didn’t want it to happen as the North was so far behind modern times and so economically farked that it would be a pain in the South’s ■■■■ to reunite. They barely even speak the same language and are so indoctrinated it would be like two countries from opposite sides of the world being smashed together. They said they can understand their parents wanting it, but they had no emotional connection to people from the North at all.

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Yep, I probably mix and work with their Parents generation, who still have family ties.

Language difference is like Melbourne vs FNQ. Were these young South Koreans here or in South Korea.

Have a real discomfort in our medias(political
discourse) communist washing if you like(sightly strong term) of the HK crisis.

The Australian Gov and our commercial media seem to comfortable to use China economically, but turn the cheek a little when it comes to politics.

HK should be a sovereign democratic state. Long term thats probablu in the interests of all countries outside of China in the region.