Category B indigenous/multicultural rookies

Isn’t this just bringing back the old zones from the 70’s?

Isn't this just bringing back the old zones from the 70's?

Not really. As currently defined, it only applies to a very small number of potential players, and clubs wouldn’t get priority access to any of them who are actually any good.

Isn't this just bringing back the old zones from the 70's?

Not really. As currently defined, it only applies to a very small number of potential players, and clubs wouldn’t get priority access to any of them who are actually any good.

Thanks

The original article said the deadline for applications was August 15th. Anybody know if we took advantage of it?

RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November’s national or rookie drafts.

Kirby played for Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and recently kicked five goals for Richmond’s VFL side on debut at the level. He followed it with four goals the following week.

The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.

The AFL has approved the full list of 33 players and circulated it to clubs last week. Under the newly formed rules, clubs will be able to list the players as category B rookies if the prospects are overlooked at the national and rookie drafts.

The club will need to lodge relevant paperwork immediately after the rookie draft on November 28 to secure the multicultural or indigenous talent.

If the relevant club does not choose to take the player as a category B rookie, or if they are an AFL nomination and are not selected in the rookie or national drafts, then any club can list the player as a category B pick.

However, the player has to give his consent before it is confirmed in that case.

The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.

Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.

Melbourne has nominated Daniel Allsop, who finished equal second in the TAC Cup’s Morrish Medal on Sunday, while Mitchell McCarthy (St Kilda), Emmanuel Irra (Port Adelaide) and Ben Ronke (Essendon) are among the other notable nominees under the rule.

The AFL has also nominated a group of 10 players (five indigenous and five multicultural) who will be up for grabs after the rookie draft if they don’t find an AFL home.

That list includes Kenny Ong, Tom Jok, Francis Watson and Cedric Cox. Cox hails from Halls Creek in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, but has impressed this year playing in the TAC Cup competition for the North Ballarat Rebels.

2016 NEXT GENERATION ACADEMY NOMINATIONS LIST

Collingwood
Isiah Farrell-Nelson (Indigenous)

Essendon
Aaron Tatchell (Indigenous), Ben Ronke (Multicultural), Muhammad Saad (Multicultural), Ovie Magbegor (Multicultural), Hisham Kerbatieh (Multicultural), Ozgur Uysal (Multicultural)

Geelong
Temoa Brown (Multicultural), Cameron Gurrumulnga (Indigenous), Deshan Gindkindi (Indigenous), Kamal Bukulatjpi (Indigenous)

Hawthorn
Tristan Tweedie (Indigenous)

Melbourne
Daniel Allsop (Multicultural)

Port Adelaide
Emmanuel Irra (Multicultural), Ariek Lual (Multicultural)

Richmond
Kayle Kirby (Indigenous), Billy Cooper (Indigenous), Esava Ratugolea (Multicultural) , Derek Smith (Indigenous), Jy Simpkin (Indigenous)

St Kilda
Mitchell McCarthy (Indigenous)

West Coast
Tarir Bayok (Multicultural)

Western Bulldogs
Dion Johnstone (Indigenous)

AFL nominations
Mading Atem (Multicultural), James El Moussalli (Multicultural), Kenny Ong (Multicultural), Jai Rout (Indigenous), Darren Allen (Indigenous), Jamaine Jones (Indigenous), Thomas Jok (Multicultural),Goy Lok (Multicultural), Cedric Cox (Indigenous), Francis Watson (Indigenous)

Jy Simpkin is indigenous? Had no idea.

I have only heard of this guy (Hisham Kerbatieh ) in draft news as far as i can remember, but it is good we have selected 5 as that means we should at least get another Category B rookie.

http://northernbluesfc.com.au/?player=23-hisham-kerbatieh
A livewire forward with a bag of tricks, Kerbatieh arrived at Northern over the summer with much fanfare and a fair degree of expectation. Classed as one of the most unlucky of last year’s draft crop to not be drafted to the AFL, Kerbatieh has an eye for goal and promises to excite Northern fans throughout 2016.
DOB16th May 1997

Height177cm

Weight88kg
Former clubs: Hadfield, Calder Cannons

Player Sponsor: Quay Developments – George Iaquinto

I’m surprised that there are 8 clubs who didn’t nominate anybody. Sure it’s a pretty slim chance of getting a good player out of it, but it’s free.

Of our zoned prospects, Uzgal is a stocky mid/small fwd who has been around for a while, he’d be 24ish now. Did an overage year with the cannons and has been in the vfl for several seasons now.

Ronke I haven’t really seen anything of, but he’s been a midfield mainstay of a poor Calder side this year. Overager, very quick off the mark.

Saad got in the headlines early when he scored a bag of 7 in the TAC. Had a good first half of the season, faded later.

Interesting we didn’t nominate Elmo but the AFL did.

List needs more TIPPAs.

I thought it was limited to one per team, but apparently not. So now we upgrade McKenna to the main list and just go crazy, right?

It’s only for guys no one wants to draft. It’s a convenience, not draft corruption as per the AFL’s propped up teams.

Interesting we didn't nominate Elmo but the AFL did.
Not really mate. The rule is based on their junior years otherwise whomever has Scotch College in their district, or other Vic schools known to recruit guys from interstate (definitely one in Ballarat), would just pay to recruit a couple of fringe talents into their district - Elmo's junior club/district was Hawthorn so he would've been eligible for Hawthorn to list.

I have only heard of this guy (Hisham Kerbatieh ) in draft news as far as i can remember....

http://northernbluesfc.com.au/?player=23-hisham-kerbatieh
A livewire forward with a bag of tricks, Kerbatieh arrived at Northern over the summer with much fanfare and a fair degree of expectation. Classed as one of the most unlucky of last year’s draft crop to not be drafted to the AFL, Kerbatieh has an eye for goal and promises to excite Northern fans throughout 2016.
DOB16th May 1997

Height177cm

Weight88kg

LOL. Love it - Dodoro's taking the absolute ■■■■ again, probably messaged SOS the second he filed the paperwork. Absolutely zero chance of getting Kerbatieh.

It is fairly well known that SOS personally put a case forward for the recruitment of Kerbatieh to the Northern Blues, as he wanted to keep a close eye on him with the intention of probably drafting him this year.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-05/tigers-eyeing-off-kayle-kirby-as-a-category-b-rookie

RICHMOND will have first access to exciting goalkicker Kayle Kirby as part of its next generation academy if the Bendigo Pioneers product does not get selected in November’s national or rookie drafts.

Kirby played for Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and recently kicked five goals for Richmond’s VFL side on debut at the level. He followed it with four goals the following week.

The Tigers have nominated the 18-year-old as one of five players they will be able to automatically list as category B rookies under the new indigenous and multicultural academies.

The AFL has approved the full list of 33 players and circulated it to clubs last week. Under the newly formed rules, clubs will be able to list the players as category B rookies if the prospects are overlooked at the national and rookie drafts.

The club will need to lodge relevant paperwork immediately after the rookie draft on November 28 to secure the multicultural or indigenous talent.

If the relevant club does not choose to take the player as a category B rookie, or if they are an AFL nomination and are not selected in the rookie or national drafts, then any club can list the player as a category B pick.

However, the player has to give his consent before it is confirmed in that case.

The Tigers will also have access to emerging ruckman Esava Ratugolea, who has a Fijian background, should he not be drafted and have also nominated indigenous prospect Jy Simpkin.

Simpkin has been injured for most of the year with a broken leg but is next to no chance to get through to the category B process. He is still likely to be a top-25 pick.

Melbourne has nominated Daniel Allsop, who finished equal second in the TAC Cup’s Morrish Medal on Sunday, while Mitchell McCarthy (St Kilda), Emmanuel Irra (Port Adelaide) and Ben Ronke (Essendon) are among the other notable nominees under the rule.

The AFL has also nominated a group of 10 players (five indigenous and five multicultural) who will be up for grabs after the rookie draft if they don’t find an AFL home.

That list includes Kenny Ong, Tom Jok, Francis Watson and Cedric Cox. Cox hails from Halls Creek in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, but has impressed this year playing in the TAC Cup competition for the North Ballarat Rebels.

2016 NEXT GENERATION ACADEMY NOMINATIONS LIST

Collingwood
Isiah Farrell-Nelson (Indigenous)

Essendon
Aaron Tatchell (Indigenous), Ben Ronke (Multicultural), Muhammad Saad (Multicultural), Ovie Magbegor (Multicultural), Hisham Kerbatieh (Multicultural), Ozgur Uysal (Multicultural)

Geelong
Temoa Brown (Multicultural), Cameron Gurrumulnga (Indigenous), Deshan Gindkindi (Indigenous), Kamal Bukulatjpi (Indigenous)

Hawthorn
Tristan Tweedie (Indigenous)

Melbourne
Daniel Allsop (Multicultural)

Port Adelaide
Emmanuel Irra (Multicultural), Ariek Lual (Multicultural)

Richmond
Kayle Kirby (Indigenous), Billy Cooper (Indigenous), Esava Ratugolea (Multicultural) , Derek Smith (Indigenous), Jy Simpkin (Indigenous)

St Kilda
Mitchell McCarthy (Indigenous)

West Coast
Tarir Bayok (Multicultural)

Western Bulldogs
Dion Johnstone (Indigenous)

AFL nominations
Mading Atem (Multicultural), James El Moussalli (Multicultural), Kenny Ong (Multicultural), Jai Rout (Indigenous), Darren Allen (Indigenous), Jamaine Jones (Indigenous), Thomas Jok (Multicultural),Goy Lok (Multicultural), Cedric Cox (Indigenous), Francis Watson (Indigenous)

Francis Watson

Francis Watson

Francis Watson

O...M...G!

The perfect combination of the holy son and the saintly one.

FOUR Calder Cannons players will come under consideration as indigenous and multicultural rookies at Essendon after being nominated as Next Generation Academy players.

Aaron Tatchell, Ben Ronke, Muhammad Saad and Ovie Magbegor are among six players nominated by Essendon, with former Cannons Hisham Kerbatieh and Ozgur Uysal also in the mix.

Under new AFL rules, clubs will be able to list the academy players as category B rookies should they not be chosen in the AFL National or Rookie drafts.

Should the Bombers decide against selecting any of their nominated players, they will be available to their 17 rival clubs under the same rule.

Ronke has enjoyed a breakout season with the Cannons after playing in St Bernard’s Victorian Amateur Football Association premiership.

The on-baller has a South African background and has been nominated as a potential multicultural rookie pick.

Saad — the younger brother of Gold Coast defender Adam — booted 23 goals from 17 TAC Cup matches this year.

Magbegor is an exciting ruck prospect who has mixed his time between football and basketball in recent years, while Tatchell has been recognised as an indigenous prospect.

Kerbatieh enjoyed a strong season with Northern Blues in 2016 after missing out at last year’s drafts.

Uysal, 24, has become one of the VFL’s most dynamic midfielders in recent years while playing with Coburg.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/four-calder-cannons-players-in-the-mix-to-become-multicultural-rookie-selections-at-essendon/news-story/99c4c4f84f19e2ff227c1b3973fb7626

You know, … every now & then, the AFL actually gets something right.

This is one of those few times.

Ronke looks to be the pick of them.

15 games and 19 goals for Calder this year, 12 times in the best.

20.53 disposals, 3.13 marks, 4.8 tackles per game.

You know, .. every now & then, the AFL actually gets something right.

This is one of those few times.

I’m not so sure, actually.

These rookie B list spots - they’re not going to blokes who were behind the 8-ball fro a drafting point of view because of their upbringing. They’re not going to blokes from indigenous communities way the hell out in the middle of nowhere. They’re going to guys who’ve been in the elite pathway for a long time. Uysal has had all the benefits of TAC Cup, Vic Metro I think, and years in the VFL. Same with Kenny Ong - from the Chargers and Vic Metro to the VFL. Kerbatieh is similar, but younger. Jy Simpkin - hes been known as one of the talents to watch in this year’s draft for a long time now, he’ll be drafted in the first two rounds so what’s the point of having him on the list?

I like the idea, but I questions the names that are going on the list. Is the point of this scheme to get blokes from non-traditional backgrounds into the AFL/ Well, if so, half of those names shouldn’t be on there, cos TAC Cup and u18 Champs and the state leagues are as traditional a footy background as you can get.

There’s some names I’m glad to see on there - Lok for instance. Marginally draftable types who have come from a long way back due to their backgrounds, and who are from communities/ethnicities that are underrepresented in the AFL and economically disadvantaged. People for who the scheme might actually make a big difference and who otherwise wouldn’t have ever even had a chance. But it just seems like a lot of these guys are being chosen for the list simply cos they’re guys with foreign-sounding names who are more likely to be picked up, so when that happens inevitably (Simpkin ffs) the AFL can point at their scheme and say ‘look how successful our multicultural inclusiveness scheme is, aren’t we awesome?’

What is the POINT of this scheme? If it’s to open pathways into footy for blokes who wouldn’t have otherwise had one due to culture/upbringing/remoteness, then a lot of these guys are the wrong people for the list. If it’s to get more ethnic-sounding names in the AFL so the AFL can feel good about themselves, it might work.

Well, this particular year I think it’s just to soothe people annoyed about GWS’s successful academy. In future years as the real system takes effect, the plan is it will bring people not in football in. Whether it works as intended…

Seems as good a place as any for this:

I just read an article about a young indigenous fella named Irving Mosquito in the Herald Sun.

Does 20m in 2.80, and at age 15 could run a 400 in 53 seconds. Already 180 cm. Played for Vic Country at the U16 Championships.

Very similar story to Tippa apparently.

@benfti One for your watch list?

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