Climate Change in Australia (Part 1)

He asked the question and you were not prepared to answer it. This is just how a politician would respond. I was always taught to not answer a question with a question.

Tony Abbott was attacked by the left for looking at his watch while “a woman was talking” Bill Shorten on the other hand got off scot-free for abusing a woman mix business owner because she didn’t have a hot pie waiting for him, left the shop and then returned and had other go at her. Not a word from the left.

And not the only dodgy seat this slimebag has done.
Four women who worked as mushroom pickers have told the royal commission into union corruption they were kept in the dark about an employment deal Labor leader Bill Shorten oversaw that lowered wages in return for unusual payments to the union he led at the time.

Mr Wolf, you are such a sad person also. Not an insult, just an observation from all your sad posts.

And I hope sorfed takes his meds, as he does have a heart problem you know.

I have not attacked Abbott; I give due respect to all who have reached the office of PM.

And to quote SMH articles again is just nonsense, much like HeraldSun stories.

You are your Mates cannot distinguish between politics and personal. I do not care what you think of Shortens politics or even Turnbulls, but you resort to personal abuse to both of them, so I have no problems calling you out for what you are.

Whether it be politics or climate change, keep to the topic or Fark off.

Indeed. I am so sick of the usual suspects trying to turn this thread into a left / right stoush. Its depressingly stupid.

@werewolf @sorfed

This pretty much answers your question

One thing I am certain of. There is far too much certainty in the world.

Most on here start with the assumption that the Socialist Left of the Labor Party (Penny Wong, Daniel Andrews and co) are the middle and then they work their labels from there.
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Indeed. I am so sick of the usual suspects trying to turn this thread into a left / right stoush. Its depressingly stupid.
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Translation - unless you agree with climate change group think then you are not to contribute to this thread.

And on topic - of course climate change is about politics. Its one of the most political topics in the country. Elections can be decided over it.

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Discovery of a facile process for hydrogen production using ammonia as a carrier.

Date: April 29, 2017
Source: Oita University

Summary:
Researchers have created a new process for producing hydrogen from ammonia with rapid initiation that requires no external heat source, giving hope for the increased global use of hydrogen as an efficient and clean energy source.

FULL STORY

H2 production from ammonia and oxygen triggered at room temperature without external heat input.

Hydrogen (H2) has attracted considerable attention as a clean energy source because the only by-product of its reaction with oxygen is water, and high efficiency for energy conversion is achieved when it is combined with fuel cell technologies.

However, low volumetric energy density and the dangers of transporting and handling H2 are drawbacks for commercial applications. These problems could be eliminated by using ammonia as a H2 storage medium (H2 carrier).

H2 produced from ammonia is utilized in fuel cells, engines, and turbines. However, the adoption of ammonia as a H2 carrier, especially for household and transportable devices, has been limited due to the lack of an efficient process for producing H2 and nitrogen by ammonia decomposition.

To overcome this limitation, the research team, led by Dr. Katsutoshi Nagaoka and Dr. Katsutoshi Sato, set out to develop a process that could be initiated rapidly, and that could produce H2 at a high rate without the need for external heat.

They found that H2 can be produced by supplying ammonia and oxygen at room temperature to a pre-treated RuO2/?-Al2O3 catalyst without external heating. The heat evolves by ammonia adsorption onto this catalyst, increasing it to the catalytic auto-ignition temperature of ammonia. Subsequently, production of H2 by oxidative decomposition of ammonia begins. In this process, once the reaction is initiated, it can start again repeatedly even if there is no external heat supply because adsorbed ammonia is desorbed during the reaction.

Dr. Nagaoka said, “Our discovery utilizes a simple fundamental physicochemical process, namely adsorption, to operate a reaction with minimal energy input. We expect this to contribute to the development of efficient, carbon-free energy production and thus to global solutions for energy and climate crises.”

Story Source:

Materials provided by Oita University. Note: Content may be edited for style and length.

Journal Reference:

Katsutoshi Nagaoka, Takaaki Eboshi, Yuma Takeishi, Ryo Tasaki, Kyoko Honda, Kazuya Imamura, Katsutoshi Sato. Carbon-free H 2 production from ammonia triggered at room temperature with an acidic RuO 2 /γ-Al 2 O 3 catalyst. Science Advances, 2017; 3 (4): e1602747 DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.1602747

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I’m still not clear on your position, do you or don’t you subscribe to ACC?

And of course you can contribute to this thread and if you have a differing view, present recent and relevant data to support your views. Don’t just present only differing political views.

Yes there is a political component to this topic, but this thread has always meant to be about the science

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Like what soulnet just posted

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It would be refreshing if you contributed an actual argument one day, but your motivation appears to be entirely driven by political ideology because thats what you always bring the discussion back to. Its like you are baracking for a football team. Climate change = environment = green = left = bad. Drop the political name-calling & address the science.

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I have presented the same argument ad infinitum.
I will repeat it again.

There is no evidence to suggest that wind farms and destroying the coal industry does anything to reduce climate change.

In fact all it does is heap more misery on the peoples who can least afford it by increasing power costs and making power less reliable.

I am all for a cheaper. more efficient power source. But the answer has not been found yet and you don’t rip up your existing solution for a band-aid that does more harm than good.

Now do I need to explain this again?

So, on what basis do you reject the finding that fossil fuels are the major contributor to the current warming trend?

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Err - that is not what I said.

The statement is (and again I repeat) - There is no evidence that wind farms and destroying the coal industry has reduced climate change.

There is evidence however that wind farms and destroying the coal industry has made power more expensive and more inefficient.

Effectively - the solution proposed and implemented is ■■■■■.

Translation - Don’t open the door to my echo chamber as I might get triggered.

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So, if you accept the finding that fossil fuels are the major contributor to the current warming trend, how do propose their emissions be reduced?

Don’t know what language you speak, … but my translation of that would be GFY.

Or maybe I’m translating reboot’s next post in advance …

If I knew that I would be a billionaire.

I find it laughable that people who can barely tie their own shoelaces up somehow think they can change weather cycles.