Climate Change in Australia (Part 2)

Possibly.

Sigh.

You’re a LEAN guy, for whatever that’s supposed to mean these days. You don’t have to spin this ■■■■.

Good ol’ Kevin Rudd once famously called climate change ‘the great moral challenge of our time’, just before he gave up on doing anything about it. Think about it in terms of the great moral challenge of ANOTHER time. Let’s go back to 1943.

Climate change is the Nazi prison camp guards. The Libs are that one prisoner who can’t deal with the reality of the situation, have grown a Hitler moustache and are sieg heiling and smearing ■■■■ on the walls and have to be physically restrained from going at their own dangly bits with a sharpened spoon. The ALP are the guy who keeps their uniform spick and span in the name of ‘discipline’ and loudly sings ‘God Save The Queen’ with the best of them, but who’s always on the lookout to sell out the escape committee to the Gestapo for extra rations. The Greens are at least trying to escape, or cooperate with the resistance, or SOMETHING, but they’re a minority and their plans aren’t perfect and the other two fkwits make it impossible to achieve anything.

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Giving 25 mill to a company that makes 1.7 billion profit for electric trucks lol,

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Your metaphor is nonsense.

I am agreeing with your concept but again your verbal diarrhoea takes over.

It is simple; Liberals only care that it is business as usual. Miners keep mining and we burn fossil fuel, they are not even really committed to nuclear. Climate change is of no consequence.

Labor cares about climate change and is committed to renewable energy but it cannot let go of the need to keep everyone happy, which ends up with no-one really happy. Some need to suffer and Labor is vote counting.

Greens are committed amateurs who just cannot stay strong. Instead of being the protectors of our environment they have evolved into diversity of policy to the detriment of their roots.

All three Parties need a dose of climate reality.

They’ve had it for many years now. An interesting Spring this year, gosh I wonder what’s going to happen in Summer? Maybe some ‘all times’, some ‘firsts’, even a few ‘once in a centuries’!

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If you study the data there can be no climate change denial, but my reality is that spending many many years in Melbourne, gives me memories of all varieties of weather.

All political parties in my experience rarely take a longterm view and rarely learn from history. Our Federal Government has three year terms, but reality is that it creates change potentially for two years given the electoral cycles.

Granted the Federal Public Service are forever writing green and white papers that take longterm positions of many policies, but I have never known any PM is sincerely think longer than the next time they visit the age to call the next election.

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Hey, it’s easier doing that than giving support to struggling startups who could change the world and make billions for the country but can’t just now afford people who can bribe influence the right people.

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sounds like they don’t actually give a sht about climate change, just about getting re elected

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14.5 Billion in subsidies to a fossil fuels industry that makes nearly 300 billion, what’s your point?

The climate changes and has changed forever “Man made” climate change however is just the new religion , and religions have always been about 2 things making money and controlling gullible people

31 new coal and gas projects approved by Albo’s mob

Australia is the world’s third-largest fossil fuel exporter based on energy content, and the second largest by climate pollution content. Each year, Australia exports 2.5 tonnes of climate pollution for every tonne of pollution released in Australia.

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The irony! :laughing:

You’re either choosing to bury your head in the sand, or you are extremely stupid.

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If you are genuinely interested in testing that position and learning some interesting stuff, then I’ll happily engage with you. But if you’re just posting to aggravate, I’ll just put you in the rude random box and move on with life.

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Of course they are, Benny

They argue the cost / benefit isn’t desirable. Maintaining the existing target delivers unnecessary harm to the economy and this impacts everyone.

Reliability of power is at risk, costs / prices increasing uncontrollably without any genuine confidence prices will come down, business and industry struggling under increased cost pressures and an inflationary economy that impacts all via inflation (as we’ve seen recently with inflation ticking up again). They argue this is economic suicide and doing so isn’t going to make any noticeable difference in the world context.

Liberal conservative Peta Credlin remarks below captures their thinking I believe.

Yeah we should definitely be listening to that imbecile Credlin

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Agree, and thats where government needs to step in in projects of this type. Take Snowy 1. Still running 50 years after completion, and might still be running in 50 years time. Lets hope Snowy 2 gets finished. Unfortunately Turnbulls vision has not exactly developed into a glorious execution: latest estimated completion 3 years from now, and a massive (600%) projected cost over run.

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Yeah.

Another way to describe the problem is that hydro and batteries are both paid as generators, not storers.

So instead of being rewarded for 3 months of energy vs 2 hours, both are paid the same for the power they push at a specific moment.

Power to the people.
Source: Engineering Australia

  • Microgrids offer a resilient alternative for remote areas. By generating and storing energy locally – typically through solar photovoltaics, batteries and small-scale diesel backup – they reduce dependence on vulnerable infrastructure while improving reliability, safety and affordability. “Microgrids can operate independently from the main grid during outages caused by storms, bushfires or equipment failures,” said Dr Umme Mumtahina MIEAust NER an engineer and renewable energy researcher at CQUniversity. “This enhances energy security and supports community resilience in the face of frequent disruptions.”

  • Project Symphony is a collaborative pilot in Western Australia that involved AEMO, Western Power and Synergy. It tested how thousands of customer-owned devices – rooftop solar, batteries and smart appliances – could be orchestrated as a virtual power plant (VPP). It showed that VPPs substantially reduce power system costs and help alleviate local network constraints improving reliability, security and real-time visibility of distributed energy resources.

  • At Essential Energy’s Innovation Lab in Port Macquarie, a CSIRO-led trial is exploring how electric vehicles (EVs) can become part of Australia’s future energy system, not just as transport, but as mobile energy assets. The project is testing vehicle-to-grid (V2G) technology using EVs connected to a simulated household fitted with rooftop solar, battery storage and common appliances. Bidirectional chargers allow the vehicles to store excess solar energy during the day and discharge it into the home or grid during peak demand, helping manage load and reduce reliance on centralised infrastructure.

  • EnergyConnect was fast-tracked as a solution to provide a stronger, more flexible link between SA and the eastern states, enabling renewable energy to flow between NSW, SA and Victoria for the first time. EnergyConnect has been engineered with resilience features including dynamic reactive support (which helps manage voltage on the grid), automated systems for detecting faults, and a phased approach to increasing its power transfer capacity – beginning with 150 MW and planned to scale up to 800 MW as more stages of the project are completed.

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Australia has no intent of reaching net zero.

Our emissions are ~16t/capita, whereas net zero is 1-2t/capita.

Who believes we’re going to reduce our emissions by 85%, while simultaneously increasing our population size by >40%?

It’s complete nonsense.

Physically impossible.

Building the housing and infrastructure alone will breach net zero.

Politicians peddle blatant lies, because they know the general public has no understanding of the numbers.

And it’s global…the Paris Agreement involved all the politicians of the world, agreeing to return to their countries, to spread a farcical 1.5 degree target to their ignorant populations…It was supposed to be a ceiling, but despite having a massive global shut down during COVID, we blasted through the ceiling in no time…So what’s the new target? Nudged to 1.6 degrees? No, the honest discussion is whether we will stay under 3 degrees, highlighting the magnitude of the global politicians’ deception.

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