I think it says we’re also all farking depressed about it and it’s easier to vent in the politics threads with anger rather than despair in here
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Depressed is not the right word I’d suggest. Accepting or defeated perhaps.
The venting and point scoring of posters in the politics threads achieves nothing. People argue about different levels of shitness with a passion that is amusing.
You sound like you have a kink for observing others kinks. The pol threads can also be educational, and amusing to be active in, not just from above. You do you as they say.
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That is a really good question and I’m glad you brought it up.
I would like to be challenged on some of my assertions and they way I think. I value the opinion of a lot of people that frequent this site and would actually like to be proven wrong on some things. I really don’t want to be right on most of my opinions regarding where we sit regarding climate change.
2023 was a real eye opener for me, that was the year where it felt to me that things were really starting to go bonkers. I read nothing by science papers for a few months there and tried to honestly try to put it all together and where we were heading. I didn’t like what I discovered. I put some of it on here and inadvertently started documenting through this thread. I don’t talk about climate change in my private life unless it’s brought up, not even with my wife. I know her views and she knows mine, and it’s hard because of the elephant in the room, our daughter. I actually feel despair for her generation. All we can do is emphasise the importance of community and family at this point.
And what happens when everyone goes quiet?
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We can also vote.
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Still waiting to find out what takes the place of complacency. Appreciate the documentation here, it makes Blitz a pretty decent one stop shop for a lot of info and opinion, rest assured it doesn’t go unread. The worst possible people at the worst possible time internationally means even mitigation will be years too late. It’s a big existential fog for people just trying to cope with every day living, and raising kids as you say.
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Yeah, that’s the thing. We are going to need each other when TSHTF. Community!!!
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A bit of a shame the last 30 years have been overseen largely by governments with a me first mantra. Best get to know your neighbour, you might be asking them for wizened zucchinis in five to ten years!
Look where voting has gotten us.
A ■■■■ government replaced by a ■■■■ lite government and a party that might be the ultimate cookers having balance of power.
None of them have the will or balls to do what is necessary.
Have you seen the vast majority of people that vote? Can’t trust who they elect.
The people we elect.
I’ll leave it there to not further pollute one of the best threads on blitz.
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Even this week in Spain you have politicians on the right blaming forest management for the ferocity and scope of the fires, instead of confronting the real issue of climate degradation. Straight out of the Trump play book.
https://www.npr.org/2026/07/28/nx-s1-5909198/spain-wildfires-politicians-climate-change
Our media and its owners have played a pivotal role as well. Maybe the voting public isn’t as dumb if they weren’t brainwashed by vested interests.
Where would we be if there was honest reporting based on the science and facts?
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Forest management does have a part to play in bushfires. So does development planning and emergency management. Not to the extent claimed by the cookers however.
Politics/control, power and money always wins out. We allow this to happen as a species. It’s our nature to.
Science and the scientific method are not perfect. It can be inaccurate and influenced. I won’t go into examples of this here.
In saying that, the current scientific consensus on climate change being real and indicating what is likely to happen cannot be intellectually challenged with any seriousness.
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I have a lot of contempt for the “all politicians are the same lying scumbags” argument. It’s a shallow thoughtless exercise designed to remove responsibility for one’s voting choices while killing any further debate on the role of government, particularly its relationship with the private sector.
That said, our elected officials have catastrophically failed to step up and meet this challenge. Hell it’s only considered a challenge because of the vested interests which have prevented meaningful action and the failure of politicians to handle them.
So much happens in democracy without the democratic consent of the populace, and it’s a failure on all involved in politics that climate change has not been meaningfully addressed.
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I was in Portugal a couple of years back when it got really bad there, same thing. Red skies, hard to breathe, very much reminiscent of our worst events. It’s nightmarish, horrible to think it’s likely to be a yearly thing, and just one glaring symptom. News was all blame games, the people were in disbelief
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Couldn’t disagree more. It is an epic challenge like none we have faced.
Total change in how we live, work, the economy, manufacturing, goods we consume, travel all needing major restructuring as they all contribute in climate change.
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It’s an epic challenge now because of the lack of action taken in decades past.
None of the adjustments you mentioned would need to be as radical or stark, had we taken measures to move away from fossil fuels in the 70s and 80s, when scientists had first raised the alarm.
Economic growth did not need to be a necessary sacrifice.
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You are severely underestimating what is required and that the tech was not available in the 70’s and 80’s and mostly isn’t still at scale.
We have tech / solutions now to theoretically eliminate approx 30% of the climate change causing pollutant’s for electricity and land based travel. We are still at sweet FA leveled of applying it.
Very little to do with manufacturing and almost nothing to deal with agriculture and air travel.
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And yet scientists have been warning us for decades that this would be one of the outcomes. 
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Let’s be clear, this was only in the Trump playbook because he nicked it from the Morrison/Murdoch playbook. The Australian and the Daily Tele etc were pushing that line long before trump. Nothing wrong with climate change-driven bushfires that more logging wouldn’t fix.
When it comes to the fight against climate change, Australia has always been the world leader, way back since the 1990s. Unfortunately, we’ve always been fighting on the wrong side. From Howard near-single-handedly torpedoing the Kyoto agreement, to the feral right wing nutbars rehearsing their propaganda in our pathetic media, to all sides of politics pretending that CCS will ever work or that carbon offsets are real or that fossil fuels you export somehow miraculously don’t cause emissions, we’ve always stood proudly at the forefront, fighting hard for the noble cause of mass extinction, starvation, and making life worse for everyone.
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The technical foundations were always there, the political will to invest and implement was lacking. Recall Carter installed solar panels on the roof of the White House back in the 70s.
The tech which has developed in the recent decade or so has come along in leaps and bounds despite a lack of government investment, not because of it. These have occurred chiefly due to the economic situation of fossil fuels within the free market- new mines, power stations etc have become more expensive than solar panels and wind farms. This could have occurred decades earlier.
Political reality is subservient to scientific reality, and the longer we put it off the more painful the reconciliation between these two realities becomes
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With the Iran war messing with the global oil supply, it’s pretty clear that shifting to EVs is a national security issue.