climate denialists should be given the choice that they don’t need to be a part of decarbonising the globe or any other program proactive towards slowing down ACC but they legally have to be the first to be sacrificed when we have to undergo rapid depopulation to preserve resources after all the food systems fail.
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On that note we need a climate Nuremberg for people like Rex Tillerson and Rupert Murdoch
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Haha. I have a farm old mate… food won’t be an issue for me.
Having planted 4 1/2 thousand native trees on my property, installed energy saving devices throughout the property, I’m thinking I have done more than most to minimise my carbon footprint anyway. Not bad for a “denier” … once again, I believe there may be some warming from human produced CO2, I just also think:
1: we aren’t getting an unbias debate
2: the debate is controlled by rich globalists (who also own the media & the west’s govts)
3: that more CO2 & a bit of warming is not necessarily an evil thing for the world
4: some people get a bit too excited about the issue & want to ■■■■ their leg on anyone that calls their religion out
5: that the 97% statement by the IPCC is an out and out lie at worst or a fix, based on how questions were written
6: the Great Barrier Reef is in its best state ever … despite reports contrary via the owned and paid for MSM
7: polar bears are in plague proportions
8: there is little or zero indication that sea levels are rising
9: Antartica is at the very least maintaining its ice levels
10: most of the IPCC data is generated based on models not the actual data
so … until such time that there is a proper global debate, that is not stitched up by elites & their media, a huge proportion of free thinking people will remain skeptical, not deniers, just not convinced because of the manner in which they are “educated”
I don’t need any of you worshippers to try & convince me to save my soul either, I’ll come to a conclusion in my own time.
But your right, something is coming that is gunna fark us plebs up, it won’t be climate change
Grizzly and polar bear hybrids, narwhal and beluga whale hybrids, nothing to see, everything is normal, don’t look up.
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Nice list of bulltish that you know people here have easily debunked, refuted etc. The only worshippers in this non debate, this actually happening event, are on your massively wrong side of it it. These are your mates, along with Uncy Murdoch who owns most of the ‘bought and paid for MSM’ that you clearly read :
“Farris and Dan Wilks, who believe their billions were given to them by God, have spent the last decade working to advance a dominionist ideology by funding far-right organizations and politicians that seek to dismiss climate change as ‘God’s will’, remove choice, demonize the LGBTQ community, and tear down public education, all to turn America into a country that gives preference to and imposes their extreme beliefs on everyone,” said Chris Tackett, a Texas-based campaign finance analyst.
“The goal of [the] Wilks and those that share their ideology is to gain control of levers of power and control information. That’s why they invest heavily into politicians, agenda-driven non-profits and media organizations like PragerU and the Daily Wire. It is all connected.”
Dochuk voices similar concerns.
“The Wilks brothers aren’t the only ones with oil and gas ties to question climate change science from a position of self-interest; with so much invested in hydrocarbon society, their pro-fossil fuel, anti-climate-crisis science position only makes sense. Where the Wilks take things further, however, is their articulation of climate change denialism in theological terms, as if we are all destined by God for a future of environmental ruin we have no responsibility for and can’t control. The force of their advocacy, informing PragerU, the Daily Wire and other conservative media outlets, is what makes their influence so penetrating and paralyzing, and insidious.”
Why no mention of the fossil fuel industry as a player is this conspiracy you’ve devised? Isn’t it in their interests to down play the impact of climate change? You mention the “elites” and the “west” having an agenda, surely someone calling for a debate would recognise other self interested parties with agendas to push?
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If I applied the 80 / 20 rule of MSM lies & exaggerations on Climate Change or lack thereof, the 80% lies in the doomster articles. Every day, one off climate events are portrayed as the end of the world. When that stops & people can have a sane debate without name calling, cynics like me may actually listen harder. At any rate we should get off fossil fuels as they will run out
I agree. The MSM are whores to the dollar and political alignment (via their owners). They are a disgrace
The actual real world fossil fuel industry believes in climate change and is currently adapting to the 2050 climate goals. Billions of dollars are being spent by industry to make this transition. None of @Bomber1408 ‘s dot points are believed by the coal, oil and gas companies.
And I’m pretty sure these companies aren’t investing billions of dollars based on distorted coverage by rich western media whatever’s. They are looking at the science, the engineering challenges and opportunities, along with the financial upside of making the transition.
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Well, you’ve never managed once to disprove any article that someone has posted here so cynicism is all you’ve got.
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I have no idea why you think you’re entitled to more than the enormous amount of attention you’ve already been given, or why anyone should care about whether you’re convinced.
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I find it hilarious how my colleagues in the fossil fuel industry are almost universally greenies.
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I find it hilarious that polar bears can be in plague proportions.
If you thought the covid lockdowns were bad…
Just ignore me … I don’t need your “attention”
I don’t need to put you on ignore. Your claims are too ridiculous to upset anyone, and you don’t go after individual posters.
The point remains though, that nobody in this entire thread, ever, has had their arguments patiently and respectfully discussed, and you still ask for more.
And you know this criticism isn’t new.
It’s not even new from me.
I just made this point a few months ago.
You act as if no-one will engage with you on a respectful level when you know that posters have walked you through the same topics, with references and explanations, time and time again.
You have not been treated poorly.
You are not going to change your mind on the smallest or most basic points, no matter what evidence is presented to you.
And if anyone was ever interested in changing your mind about anything, they have given up now.
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Thank you, but your wrong I read it all … must get back to work, cheers
And then ignored it all.
There is no level of proof that will change your mind. No amount of thorough research.
Putting effort into educating yourself on these topics is a waste of people’s time, because if it doesn’t fit your pre-defined world view you don’t respond and quickly forget whatever was provided to you.
I don’t believe I ever said you don’t read it.
It’s amusing to watch corporations abandon their previous positions on the subject to chase the dollars, positions that they spent decades brainwashing people like 1408 with, only to then leave said brainwashed people in the dust, hopelessly grasping their outdated views and unable to move forward due to their own cognitive dissonance
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He called me a busy body. Low blow.
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