Climate Change in Australia (Part 2)

[Bacchusfox]

@andrewb

Academics are like that, they don’t have independent minds at all.

And you forgot, no scruples or honesty, and they just do science for the money !! Isn’t that correct @Albert_Thurgood ???

[andrewb]

Oh how I envy the wealth in academia. You see these academics driving around in their fast cars, with their designer clothes, and you just think: ‘why didn’t I choose that career’.

Academics have got so much more to lose than the saudis, the Russians and the US energy lobby from energy transition.

[Bacchusfox]

And you forgot that those Academics blokes get all the super-models flocking to them.

[Chris_1993]

Does this all start to happen mid-career? Asking for a…me.

[andrewb]

First you get the citations
Then you get the tenure
Then you get the ■■■■■

[CrossleyCrazy]

@andrewb

As one of the elites charged with perpetrating this elaborate hoax

But why Andrewb?
What is the motivation?
@Bomber1408 wont tell me.

[andrewb]

We’re all sick of making money off oil and we want a new challenge

[CrossleyCrazy]

@Bomber1408

But your right, something is coming that is gunna fark us plebs up, it won’t be climate change

I’m also a little bit worried about this, is it the polar bear plague? Can you elaborate a little more. Is it Russian nukes?

[CrossleyCrazy]

Another question for @Bomber1408
In other threads you tell people to trust the experts.

AFL coaches know much more about selection and list management than us plebs, scientists know much more about PEDs than asada etc.

Why is it different when it comes to climate scientists?

[Bacchusfox]

Ask @Albert_Thurgood , he is a chick magnet.

This is Mrs Einstein, all of them !!

[Bomber1408]

@CrossleyCrazy

I would like a @Bomber1408 answer.
I want to understand why the elites and their minions would perform such an elaborate hoax?

I can understand the thinking behind scientists being wrong - it wouldn’t be the first time.

I can’t for the life of me understand why people would put so much effort into coming up with and driving such a huge hoax?

For control (power) and of course enrichment

[Bomber1408]

@Sniggles

Good post, I agree with the premise and 90% of the content. But I also need to be finicky with some particulars

@davethedon

We might stop some land clearing tgat coukd have gone ahead without climate concerns.

We’re already past this point. Excluding desert areas and Siberians wastes, humans are directly affecting roughly 75% of total land mass on Earth. Wild animal populations are at roughly 60% of what they were in the 1970s. Combined with the deforestation and topsoil degradation that’s happening, land clearing is a problem which needs arresting outside of it’s impacts on climate change.

@davethedon

We might rein in economic growth that could otherwise have existed

Economic growth was never a sacrifice we needed to make on the alter of environmental sustainability. I would argue that the more equitable distribution of resources possible with renewable energy would lead to greater economic prosperity. Everyone has direct access to sunlight and wind for just two examples. That it’s not profitable enough for big business is more or less the only major hurdle for meaningful transition and why it didn’t occur decades ago.

Ironically, more CO2 in the atmosphere promotes more & faster growth of all vegetation including trees, which in turn soaks up greater amounts of CO2

[CrossleyCrazy]

@Bomber1408

For control (power) and of course enrichment

These are very general concepts.
So how does pushing a global warming scenario provide them?

[Humble_Minion]

That last post here is why most people in this thread don’t engage with b1408 any more. I mean, I’ve posted replies to his reflexive ‘CO2 is plant food!’ meme multiple times, to the point where I resorted to copy-pasting. He never responds, never engages, never brings anything on board or learns. Just ignores what anyone else tries to say, and burps up the same dribble again weeks later as if it had all never happened as as if this utterly dishonest bullshit hadn’t been profoundly debunked many years ago. What’s the point talking to someone who isn’t listening? Not just a denialist, but a denialist in denial.

[wimmera1]

Sorry guys…
Overnight shift, you’re just gonna have to deal with it.

As true as it ever was.

World Party - Ship of Fools

Screw you guys.

[Bomber1408]

@Humble_Minion

That last post here is why most people in this thread don’t engage with b1408 any more. I mean, I’ve posted replies to his reflexive ‘CO2 is plant food!’ meme multiple times, to the point where I resorted to copy-pasting. He never responds, never engages, never brings anything on board or learns. Just ignores what anyone else tries to say, and burps up the same dribble again weeks later as if it had all never happened as as if this utterly dishonest bullshit hadn’t been profoundly debunked many years ago. What’s the point talking to someone who isn’t listening? Not just a denialist, but a denialist in denial.

Are you saying that more CO2 does not grow plants quicker, and whats more makes plants more viable in drier climates? I thought that was pretty much common knowledge and not in dispute. All I was trying to say was its ironic that tree felling is on the rise, as they are a clear carbon repository.

[davethedon]

Anyone struggling without a life jacket in a lake this year will no doubt be enjoying the fact that water is necessary for life.

I’d like to see a plot of percentage of total land area vegetated versus non-vegetated against atmospheric CO2 for say the last 200 years…

Canadian forests are also enjoying the CO2 growth spurt otherwise known as the ‘1000 wildfires’ growth stage…

[Humble_Minion]

Fkg QED. Talking to b1408 is like talking to a wall. If he was serious, or debating in good faith, or interested in facts, he could go back and read any of the dozen times i’ve responded to him on this matter, in this very thread.

[davethedon]

Yes, I shouldn’t bother.

[CyberBomber]

@andrewb

Then you get the tenure

Lol, can I work at your university?