Not a doctor, but I think there’s a lot of different factors to coral bleaching.
There was a time about twenty years ago when West Coast reefs looked way better than the Barrier Reef.
But I’m sure ocean warming doesn’t help along with other factors.
Yes there are man made factors such as chemicals and over fishing that have impacted reefs but warming has impacted the aquatic ecosystem and it’s changed for the worse. I’m going diving today in a spot I went to 12 years ago - it’ll be interesting to see how it’s changed
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Well, I’m in Patagonia at the moment, and the shrinking and thinning of the ice fields over the last few decades is big news here.
Really, anyone who disputes climate change in 2023 has their eyes wired shut. It is all around us for anyone to see.
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That guy is still talking about the ‘weather’ in his area. He hasn’t even paid enough attention to terminology to begin to understand anything beyond it. The question is why would he be so angry about other people knowing more? To paraphrase Bill Hicks, certain folks will ask “what are you reading?” and certain folks will ask “what are you reading for?
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I mean…his, ‘the ocean is too big to warm’ was a pretty spectacular example of ‘I don’t understand this so it must be wrong’.
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Sometimes disturbing, always good for a laugh, every one of his posts in here reminds me of this meme…
Haha have a good day everybody
We’re damned if we do, and damned if we don’t unfortunately.
This paper goes into great detail about our dilemma with pollution and the “accidental” aerosol experiment the IMO has conducted.
Not a doctor, does the paper make a potential projection of skin cancer deaths over the last twenty years?
I get that’s comparatively small beans, and that we’d absolutely make that trade*, but it seems like a pertinent point.
*assuming it’s at all accurate.
We had one of Australia’s top climate scientists do a talk at my work this year. Basically we are ■■■■■■ was the vibe.
But regarding aerosols, from memory he said there as about 0.5-1.0C baked in that we will need to absorb as we stop producing mass amounts of particulates and other substances that reflect heat. Things will need to get worse before they can get better.
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average 4C rise is inevitable because there is no collective will to change. we’ll be 80-100 years too late with the level of response needed to stop human caused disruption of climate.
adaptation is an enormous challenge, and it won’t be possible, even attempted across a global population of 10+ billion.
we are totally farked.
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Where in southern Victoria? a quick search on elders weather for averages for Colac and Foster show on average or above average for both day and night time temps fro December so far, which is the first month of summer.
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He made it up
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Victoria in spring 2023
Rainfall
- The area-averaged rainfall total for spring was 155.44 mm, 14.2% below the 1961–1990.
- Area-averaged spring rainfall totals were above average for parts of the Gippsland districts and scattered areas of northern Victoria, but below average for a large area of the south-west and small areas of the north-east and an area along the Victoria-South Australia border.
- On 4 October, many sites across the state had their highest spring daily rainfall on record, due to a low pressure trough and cold front that crossed the state between 3rd to 5th bringing widespread rain.
- Traralgon Creek at Koornalla had its highest total spring rainfall on record at 339.9 mm. Its previous record high was 314 mm in 2011. The long-term spring average rainfall is 201.9 mm.
- Some sites had their highest total spring rainfall for at least 20 years.
Temperature
- Area-averaged spring mean maximum temperature was 1.85 °C above the long-term (1961–1990) average, the tenth-warmest since records began (in 1910) and the warmest since 2020.
- Mean maximum temperatures were above to very much above average across the state and the highest on record for the East Gippsland district.
- Warmest average spring daytime temperature was 26.4 °C at Mildura Airport, which is 2.3 °C above the long-term average.
- Coolest average spring daytime temperature was 10.5 °C at Mount Buller, which is 1.9 °C above the long-term average.
- Mallacoota had its highest spring mean daily maximum temperature on record at 20.5 °C. Its previous highest on record was 20.3 °C in 2020. The long-term average is 19.1 °C.
- Area-averaged spring mean minimum temperature was 0.38 °C above the long-term (1961–1990) average and the coolest since 2021.
- During spring, mean minimum temperatures were average to above average for most of the state, but below average for western parts.
- Falls Creek had the coldest night-time temperature on average this spring at 2.7 °C, which is 0.9 °C above the long-term average.
- Wilson Promontory Lighthouse had the warmest night-time temperature on average this spring at 11.6 °C, and this was 0.8 °C above the long-term average.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/vic/summary.shtml
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I didn’t say anythink about rainfall and I said Southern Victoria. Clearly Mildura, Falls Creek etc aren’t in Southetn Victoria.
But I do get what your saying, your pointing out meaningless statistics in a bid to undermine my statement and make yourself the thread hero.
Pathetic
O & below average rainfall in spring during a el nino year is not surprising.
Wilson’s prom is the most southern point of Victoria you spoon
Congratulations, Mildura, Falls creek, & Mallacouta aint
That’s literally the BOM summary of spring in Victoria copy and pasted in its entirety.
I didn’t editorialise. I didn’t leave anything out. That’s what the BOM thought was important to mention.
I’m not throwing personal shade at you. I actually have found it to be a pleasantly mild spring, which has been great because I got to do more weekend hiking than I expected. Was actually a bit surprised that the average temperature ended up so high.
If you can point to anything that supports what you’re trying to say, great. But I think you and I are similar in that our perception of the weather and the actual data are out of whack.
You shouldn’t be, after all the BOM has been playing with historical temperatures
Seriously…?
Edit - sorry but I’ve got nothing. If you don’t want to believe the BOM, then our realities are just incompatible. And I’m not interested in the meme of the meteorologists don’t know how to do weather properly. I’m just going to leave this one.
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