COVID-19 - Stay The F**k Home, says Dictator Dan

Does the COVIDSafe app require you to swipe right or left in combination with a thumbs up or down?

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Can it be eliminated without a vaccine?

I don’t know the numbers, but it may simply be a case of the additional health gains from elimination compared to suppression are not worth the economic costs associated to achieve it.

Or, as it generally gets put, it’s the law of diminishing returns.

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CSL Broadmeadows does not make vaccines. Its core business is the production of blood products using blood from the Bloodbank or by use of recombinant technologies to produce clotting factors, like hemophilia factor VIII, and other immunotherapies that have a wide range of therapeutic uses.

Theoretically the recombinant facility could be used, at goodness knows what cost, and place current production of life saving therapies in jeopardy. Very unlikely (not going to happen).

CSL Parkville manufactures bulk Flu vaccine using embryonic eggs (older technology).

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No. therefore suppression is better for the economy.

Could be worse… Bec Judd’s poor kids stuck with her at home after her social life truncated.

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Not according to the modelling. Read the article.

And elimination is local - both strategies rely on closing international borders while we wait for a vaccine or cure.

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My local fruit and veg shop has gloves out for everyone and They police it fervently

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I may have missed it but has there been an inquiry started as to what caused this cluster to be so significant?

I reckon we should keep chasing a vaccine hard, but odds are very good that we are just going to have to learn to live with this. At least in the short to medium term.

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The modelling says 5% better growth from August, 50% over an 18mth period. Interesting comparison though, haven’t read the whole paper yet, still going through it.

There used to be some sort of arrangement in the PBS scheme tying a degree of local manufacture or investment to purchasing.
As to R&D, the US private sector gets huge government support via US military government procurement arrangements. Military procurement is exempt from world trade rules applying to government procurement.

Same in Liberal states if that’s your angle. Heaps of infrastructure getting done while the leviathan sleeps. Here’s a genuine question, do you think they’ve got strict hygiene rules in place for all building and council sites? Not saying it’s right or wrong but do you think it’s it’s only in Victoria? Because it’s not. Why is that?

Littleproud is playing it down in the context of Commonwealth Inspectors who have been involved in enforcing FSANZ food standards. He said there are always learnings to be had.

2 new cases on Gold Coast as restrictions are loosened. Tried to post article but computerzz

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It’s been very noticeable this week, both public transport and foot traffic around the CBD.

I am sure the world scientific community are all working towards a vaccine, albeit from different directions. The problem is the scale up.

I’m coming around to the strategy of looking at drug treatment, similar to the current approach to HIV therapies.

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As yet, Cedar is the only meatworks to be involved in a cluster in Australia.
Meatworks elsewhere, including in Queensland and other States could well be applying the same arrangements as those at Cedar - hence some caution about condemning lax government standards at Cedar.

Do we know if they’re actually “from” the meatworks or wider cases that are linked back to the meatworks? If it’s the former we can probably shut it down fairly soon, but the latter risks a much bigger problem. The nursing home worker is a huge concern, obviously.

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